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Michael Collins
03-07-2007, 01:56 PM
This is THE SUMMARY for political junkies, Fitz FANatics. It’s not over by a long shot. Enjoy.

Zeroing in on Bush-Cheney

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2007/030707.html
Robert Parry Consortium News March 7, 2007 12:17 pm


Criminal trials – especially relating to national security scandals – are an imperfect way of learning the larger truth. As with the four-count conviction of former White House aide I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby, the charges are often structured narrowly to avoid long battles over classified secrets or inherent presidential powers.

But even limited trials can offer important glimpses into the inner workings of an administration, especially one as secretive as George W. Bush’s. Though Libby was convicted only on perjury and obstruction charges, there should be little doubt what the full picture looks like.

If the panorama could be viewed all at once, the American people would see an administration that, in summer 2003, felt it could pretty much do whatever it wanted to anyone. Bush's inner circle validated every cliche about the arrogance of power, particularly the old saying about absolute power corrupting absolutely.

In the modern media context, defending that omnipotence meant coming up with demeaning comments about critics who dared to speak out. The goal was to generate talking points that could be given to the administration’s many friends in Congress or at right-wing and mainstream news outlets.

Snip

As Denis Collins, one of the Libby jurors, explained after the verdict, “we’re not saying that we didn’t think Mr. Libby was guilty of the things we found him guilty of. But it seemed like he was … the fall guy.”

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Syanora

Kid of the Black Hole
03-07-2007, 02:09 PM
hey you left off the 'l' at the end of the link so it doesn't work.

Here's the correct link though

www.consortiumnews.com/2007/030707.html (http://www.consortiumnews.com/2007/030707.html)

verrrrrry interesting

Michael Collins
03-07-2007, 04:06 PM
This is THE SUMMARY for political junkies, Fitz FANatics. It’s not over by a long shot. Enjoy.

Zeroing in on Bush-Cheney

http://www.consortiumnews.com/2007/030707.html
Robert Parry Consortium News March 7, 2007 12:17 pm


Criminal trials – especially relating to national security scandals – are an imperfect way of learning the larger truth. As with the four-count conviction of former White House aide I. Lewis “Scooter” Libby, the charges are often structured narrowly to avoid long battles over classified secrets or inherent presidential powers.

But even limited trials can offer important glimpses into the inner workings of an administration, especially one as secretive as George W. Bush’s. Though Libby was convicted only on perjury and obstruction charges, there should be little doubt what the full picture looks like.

If the panorama could be viewed all at once, the American people would see an administration that, in summer 2003, felt it could pretty much do whatever it wanted to anyone. Bush's inner circle validated every cliche about the arrogance of power, particularly the old saying about absolute power corrupting absolutely.

In the modern media context, defending that omnipotence meant coming up with demeaning comments about critics who dared to speak out. The goal was to generate talking points that could be given to the administration’s many friends in Congress or at right-wing and mainstream news outlets.

Snip

As Denis Collins, one of the Libby jurors, explained after the verdict, “we’re not saying that we didn’t think Mr. Libby was guilty of the things we found him guilty of. But it seemed like he was … the fall guy.”

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v474/autorank/nixonleaves.jpg
Syanora

anaxarchos
03-07-2007, 11:12 PM
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Lawrence O'Donnell was on MSNBC tonight, saying something like, "Even the jurors said that Libby should get a pardon, so I guess it would be alright...".

http://www.harrywalker.com/photos/ODonnell_Lawrence.jpg

Everyone was in agreement that he was a "fool". But suddenly they all declared: "How shrewd to do it on a bridge! If his aim is poor, it would obviously end his suffering at once. Good thinking! If he had been wounded, he would have fallen into the water and drowned before he could regain consciousness. Yes indeed, on a bridge...very clever!"

One couldn't make any sense whatever of this whole affair: he was both a fool and very clever."

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Michael Collins
03-08-2007, 01:19 AM
Libby should go directly to jail, one of those prisons in southern Virginia that nobody ever sees unless they do time. He needs to stay there the rest of his fucking life.

Thanks to him Brewester-Jennings had its cover blown. All they were doing was tracking the insaniac Kahn of that very volatile contry (with a similarity to the White House) Pakistan. Just really deadly WMD. But, hey, it got in the way of somebody's personal agenda. Guess it was worth it for them. Libby is pathetic. He is taking it in the you know where and the perps are free, walking around. If this isn't treason, then what is?

On a brighter note, I fully acknowledge you as the single inspiration for this article. http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0703/S00134.htm I know that he's exempting people actually in prison, murderers and really big time drug dealers. All citizens should vote. Even with all their restrictions, the levelers (but not true), I mean, founders never had a prison sentence as a franchise exclusion. I didn't put in an acknowledgment to you but that's only because Im an inconsiderate asshole;) I'm doing it here.

Back to "The Fall" - Scarborough said tonight, "Is is time for Cheney to go?" Seeding the news junkies. It's going to happen. [/code]

anaxarchos
03-08-2007, 02:04 AM
Libby should go directly to jail, one of those prisons in southern Virginia that nobody ever sees unless they do time. He needs to stay there the rest of his fucking life.

Thanks to him Brewester-Jennings had its cover blown. All they were doing was tracking the insaniac Kahn of that very volatile contry (with a similarity to the White House) Pakistan. Just really deadly WMD. But, hey, it got in the way of somebody's personal agenda. Guess it was worth it for them. Libby is pathetic. He is taking it in the you know where and the perps are free, walking around. If this isn't treason, then what is?

On a brighter note, I fully acknowledge you as the single inspiration for this article. http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0703/S00134.htm I know that he's exempting people actually in prison, murderers and really big time drug dealers. All citizens should vote. Even with all their restrictions, the levelers (but not true), I mean, founders never had a prison sentence as a franchise exclusion. I didn't put in an acknowledgment to you but that's only because Im an inconsiderate asshole;) I'm doing it here.

Back to "The Fall" - Scarborough said tonight, "Is is time for Cheney to go?" Seeding the news junkies. It's going to happen. [/code]

Thank you, very much. That is as much "attribution" as I need. As I said in my PM, I can't account for this move by Crist at all. I have to do some digging. It is quite puzzling and there is NO WAY that the Democrats would have done it. Even odder is the Florida/GOP convinction that this is one of their most important props for political power.

It don't make no sense...

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Kid of the Black Hole
03-08-2007, 11:14 AM
Libby should go directly to jail, one of those prisons in southern Virginia that nobody ever sees unless they do time. He needs to stay there the rest of his fucking life.

Thanks to him Brewester-Jennings had its cover blown. All they were doing was tracking the insaniac Kahn of that very volatile contry (with a similarity to the White House) Pakistan. Just really deadly WMD. But, hey, it got in the way of somebody's personal agenda. Guess it was worth it for them. Libby is pathetic. He is taking it in the you know where and the perps are free, walking around. If this isn't treason, then what is?

On a brighter note, I fully acknowledge you as the single inspiration for this article. http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0703/S00134.htm I know that he's exempting people actually in prison, murderers and really big time drug dealers. All citizens should vote. Even with all their restrictions, the levelers (but not true), I mean, founders never had a prison sentence as a franchise exclusion. I didn't put in an acknowledgment to you but that's only because Im an inconsiderate asshole;) I'm doing it here.

Back to "The Fall" - Scarborough said tonight, "Is is time for Cheney to go?" Seeding the news junkies. It's going to happen. [/code]

Thank you, very much. That is as much "attribution" as I need. As I said in my PM, I can't account for this move by Crist at all. I have to do some digging. It is quite puzzling and there is NO WAY that the Democrats would have done it. Even odder is the Florida/GOP convinction that this is one of their most important props for political power.

It don't make no sense...

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Well, I'm guessing you know better than I do, but I'm not THAT surprised. He ran on a near populist platform and as a reformer other than on the whole FCAT/NCLB thing. Although I have no idea what the GOP gains from it..even their insurance rate cuts don't sound all bad, so you know they're up to some sneaky shit behind the scenes

anaxarchos
03-09-2007, 04:44 PM
Well, I'm guessing you know better than I do, but I'm not THAT surprised. He ran on a near populist platform and as a reformer other than on the whole FCAT/NCLB thing. Although I have no idea what the GOP gains from it..even their insurance rate cuts don't sound all bad, so you know they're up to some sneaky shit behind the scenes

You're guessing wrong. I don't know jack about Crist. D'ya really think he ran as a "near populist"?

In my conspiratorial mind, I'm thinkin' some kinda battle between the extreme right-wing Cubans down south and the Feeny/Foley/Harris types and the "moderate" central Florida newbies... but I have NO EVIDENCE.

This is worth researching. The conventional wisdom is that felony re-infranchisement would be political suicide for the GOP. Even 30% participation would yield two thirds of the state races that have gone to the Pubs since the mid '90s.

... and this in what is now the third most populous state in the country.
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Kid of the Black Hole
03-09-2007, 07:59 PM
Well, I'm guessing you know better than I do, but I'm not THAT surprised. He ran on a near populist platform and as a reformer other than on the whole FCAT/NCLB thing. Although I have no idea what the GOP gains from it..even their insurance rate cuts don't sound all bad, so you know they're up to some sneaky shit behind the scenes

You're guessing wrong. I don't know jack about Crist. D'ya really think he ran as a "near populist"?

In my conspiratorial mind, I'm thinkin' some kinda battle between the extreme right-wing Cubans down south and the Feeny/Foley/Harris types and the "moderate" central Florida newbies... but I have NO EVIDENCE.

This is worth researching. The conventional wisdom is that felony re-infranchisement would be political suicide for the GOP. Even 30% participation would yield two thirds of the state races that have gone to the Pubs since the mid '90s.

... and this in what is now the third most populous state in the country.
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No, thats not what I think..Crist was waist-deep in the Foley thing (part of the reason Jeb helped cover it up I guess) I'm just repeating what I've heard everyone saying (near populist). Honestly I don't really care since I can barely wait to get out of this shithole.