Pastor, 8 others, fatally shot at church in Charleston, SC

Associated Press By ALEX SANZ and DAVID GOLDMAN, Associated Press

CHARLESTON, S.C. (AP) — A white man opened fire during a prayer meeting inside a historic black church in downtown Charleston, killing nine people, including the pastor, in an assault authorities described as a hate crime.

The suspect attended the meeting at the church Wednesday night and stayed for nearly an hour before the deaths, police Chief Greg Mullen said.

The shooter remained at large Thursday morning and police released photographs from surveillance video of a suspect and a possible getaway vehicle. Mullen said he could not offer a make and model on the dark colored sedan because investigators were not certain about what is shown in the video.

The victims were six females and three males, Mullen said Thursday morning. He did not give other details and said names would be released after families were notified.

But State House Minority leader Todd Rutherford told The Associated Press that the Emanuel AME Church's pastor, state Sen. Clementa Pinckney, was among those killed.

Pinckney, 41, was a married father of two who was elected to the state House at age 23, making him the youngest member of the House at the time.

"He never had anything bad to say about anybody, even when I thought he should," Rutherford, D-Columbia, said. "He was always out doing work either for his parishioners or his constituents. He touched everybody."

The suspect was described as a white man in his early 20s.

Mullen said he believed the attack was a hate crime and a Justice Department spokesman said federal officials were opening a hate crime investigation. The spokesman spoke on condition of anonymity. The official was not authorized to be quoted by name because the federal investigation had not been announced.

"This is a very dangerous individual," Mullen said.

"We want to identify this individual and arrest him before he hurts anyone else," the chief said.

Mullen said he had no reason to think the suspect has left the Charleston area, but was distributing information about him and the vehicle around the country.

Mullen said the scene at the church was chaotic when police arrived, and officers thought they had the suspect tracked with a police dog, but he got away.

"We will put all effort, we will put all resources and we will put all of our energy into finding this individual who committed this crime tonight," he said.


Charleston Mayor Joseph P. Riley Jr. called the shooting "an unfathomable and unspeakable act by somebody filled with hate and with a deranged mind."

"Of all cities, in Charleston, to have a horrible hateful person go into the church and kill people there to pray and worship with each other is something that is beyond any comprehension and is not explained," Riley said. "We are going to put our arms around that church and that church family."

In a statement, NAACP President and CEO Cornell William Brooks condemned the shooting.

"There is no greater coward than a criminal who enters a house of God and slaughters innocent people engaged in the study of scripture," Brooks said.

The attack came two months after the fatal shooting of an unarmed black man, Walter Scott, by a white police officer in neighboring North Charleston that sparked major protests and highlighted racial tensions in the area. The officer has been charged with murder, and the shooting prompted South Carolina lawmakers to push through a bill helping all police agencies in the state get body cameras. Pinckney was a sponsor of that bill.

Soon after Wednesday night's shooting, a group of pastors huddled together praying in a circle across the street.


Community organizer Christopher Cason said he felt certain the shootings were racially motivated.

"I am very tired of people telling me that I don't have the right to be angry," Cason said. "I am very angry right now."

Even before Scott's shooting in April, Cason said he had been part of a group meeting with police and local leaders to try to shore up relations.

The Emmanuel AME church is a historic African-American church that traces its roots to 1816, when several churches split from Charleston's Methodist Episcopal church.

One of its founders, Denmark Vesey, tried to organize a slave revolt in 1822. He was caught, and white landowners had his church burned in revenge. Parishioners worshipped underground until after the Civil War.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/pastor-8-others-fatally-shot-at-church-in-charleston-sc/ar-AAbLntz


Photos at link.

Hate crime, sure, but is it 'terrorism'? After all, a government official was killed. Maybe it's only 'terrorism' if the booj and their order are threatened, then the full weight of the security apparatus are brought to bear with a vengence.

Won't be surprised if this guy is offed by the police, made up narratives are so much more predictable.

A miscellaneous Tweet...

Musa Okwonga ‏@Okwonga 6h6 hours ago
"Was the shooter acting alone?"
"No, he had colonial history behind him."
#CharlestonShooting

Won't be surprised if this guy is offed by the police, made up narratives are so much more predictable.

not sure I follow. What we look for is the (dis)proportionality of the response vis a vis New York.

not sure I follow. What we look for is the (dis)proportionality of the response vis a vis New York.

Dead men tell no tales and white racism is something the spin meisters would rather not dwell upon, there's cops being killed out there for being cops, don't ya know. The response must be disproportunate, priorities must be clear. Best move this thing to the back page, asap.

Edit: Wrong again, they got the guy in Shelby, NC. Must be mentally ill, don't ya know.

Lindsey Graham explains:

`White' washing begins: Lindsey Graham says Dylan Roof looked for Christians, not blacks, to kill!
2015-06-18 10:20:05

http://www.news786.in/news/artimg/17207_1.jpg

US
Republican presidential candidate Lindsey Graham reacted to a mass shooting at a historically black church in home state of South Carolina by suggesting that the shooter was “looking for Christians to kill them.”

On Wednesday, Dylann Roof shot and killed nine people at Emanuel AME Church in Charleston. A witness said that he told them that he was there “to shoot black people.”

According to the Southern Poverty Law Center, at least 19 hate groups are based in South Carolina.

Graham told hosts of The View on Wednesday that his niece had gone to school with Roof.

“Once thing it’s not — let’s talk about what it’s not, in my view — it’s not a window into the soul of South Carolina,” Graham insisted.

He continued: “I can’t explain this. I don’t know what would make a young man at 21 get so sick and twisted to kill nine people in a church, this is beyond my understanding.”

“Do you think it’s a hate crime or do you think it’s more mentally disturbed?” one of the co-hosts asked Graham.

“Probably both,” he replied. “There are real people out there that are organized to kill people in religion and based on race. This guy is just whacked out.”

“But it’s 2015, there are people out there looking for Christians to kill them,” Graham added. “This is a mean time we live in.”

http://www.news786.in/article.php?id=MTcyMDc=

There you are, the man is fit for the office.

That's a twofer, dismissal of racism & persecution of Christians in one statement, an accomplished sophists.

Graham will say absolutely anything to win in the primaries, this is how it's done. Red meat for the morons.

There you are, the man is fit for the office.

That's a twofer, dismissal of racism & persecution of Christians in one statement, an accomplished sophists.

Graham will say absolutely anything to win in the primaries, this is how it's done. Red meat for the morons.

I would like to say I am surprised; but I am not. White supremacists, like Graham, cannot find racism, anywhere. They look for it, too be sure. But it just isn't there. So, it must be anti-Christian. This makes Graham, himself, is a victim. Let's pray for him.

Said to be #DylannRoof's manifesto.
discovered by @EMQuangel @HenryKrinkIe abt 40 mins ago.
http://lastrhodesian.com




I was not raised in a racist home or environment. Living in the South, almost every White person has a small amount of racial awareness, simply beause of the numbers of negroes in this part of the country. But it is a superficial awareness. Growing up, in school, the White and black kids would make racial jokes toward each other, but all they were were jokes. Me and White friends would sometimes would watch things that would make us think that “blacks were the real racists” and other elementary thoughts like this, but there was no real understanding behind it.

The event that truly awakened me was the Trayvon Martin case. I kept hearing and seeing his name, and eventually I decided to look him up. I read the Wikipedia article and right away I was unable to understand what the big deal was. It was obvious that Zimmerman was in the right. But more importantly this prompted me to type in the words “black on White crime” into Google, and I have never been the same since that day. The first website I came to was the Council of Conservative Citizens. There were pages upon pages of these brutal black on White murders. I was in disbelief. At this moment I realized that something was very wrong. How could the news be blowing up the Trayvon Martin case while hundreds of these black on White murders got ignored?

From this point I researched deeper and found out what was happening in Europe. I saw that the same things were happening in England and France, and in all the other Western European countries. Again I found myself in disbelief. As an American we are taught to accept living in the melting pot, and black and other minorities have just as much right to be here as we do, since we are all immigrants. But Europe is the homeland of White people, and in many ways the situation is even worse there. From here I found out about the Jewish problem and other issues facing our race, and I can say today that I am completely racially aware.

Blacks

I think it is is fitting to start off with the group I have the most real life experience with, and the group that is the biggest problem for Americans.
Niggers are stupid and violent. At the same time they have the capacity to be very slick. Black people view everything through a racial lense. Thats what racial awareness is, its viewing everything that happens through a racial lense. They are always thinking about the fact that they are black. This is part of the reason they get offended so easily, and think that some thing are intended to be racist towards them, even when a White person wouldnt be thinking about race. The other reason is the Jewish agitation of the black race.
Black people are racially aware almost from birth, but White people on average dont think about race in their daily lives. And this is our problem. We need to and have to.
Say you were to witness a dog being beat by a man. You are almost surely going to feel very sorry for that dog. But then say you were to witness a dog biting a man. You will most likely not feel the same pity you felt for the dog for the man. Why? Because dogs are lower than men.
This same analogy applies to black and White relations. Even today, blacks are subconsciously viewed by White people are lower beings. They are held to a lower standard in general. This is why they are able to get away with things like obnoxious behavior in public. Because it is expected of them.
Modern history classes instill a subconscious White superiority complex in Whites and an inferiority complex in blacks. This White superiority complex that comes from learning of how we dominated other peoples is also part of the problem I have just mentioned. But of course I dont deny that we are in fact superior.
I wish with a passion that niggers were treated terribly throughout history by Whites, that every White person had an ancestor who owned slaves, that segregation was an evil an oppressive institution, and so on. Because if it was all it true, it would make it so much easier for me to accept our current situation. But it isnt true. None of it is. We are told to accept what is happening to us because of ancestors wrong doing, but it is all based on historical lies, exaggerations and myths. I have tried endlessly to think of reasons we deserve this, and I have only came back more irritated because there are no reasons.
Only a fourth to a third of people in the South owned even one slave. Yet every White person is treated as if they had a slave owning ancestor. This applies to in the states where slavery never existed, as well as people whose families immigrated after slavery was abolished. I have read hundreds of slaves narratives from my state. And almost all of them were positive. One sticks out in my mind where an old ex-slave recounted how the day his mistress died was one of the saddest days of his life. And in many of these narratives the slaves told of how their masters didnt even allowing whipping on his plantation.
Segregation was not a bad thing. It was a defensive measure. Segregation did not exist to hold back negroes. It existed to protect us from them. And I mean that in multiple ways. Not only did it protect us from having to interact with them, and from being physically harmed by them, but it protected us from being brought down to their level. Integration has done nothing but bring Whites down to level of brute animals. The best example of this is obviously our school system.
Now White parents are forced to move to the suburbs to send their children to “good schools”. But what constitutes a “good school”? The fact is that how good a school is considered directly corresponds to how White it is. I hate with a passion the whole idea of the suburbs. To me it represents nothing but scared White people running. Running because they are too weak, scared, and brainwashed to fight. Why should we have to flee the cities we created for the security of the suburbs? Why are the suburbs secure in the first place? Because they are White. The pathetic part is that these White people dont even admit to themselves why they are moving. They tell themselves it is for better schools or simply to live in a nicer neighborhood. But it is honestly just a way to escape niggers and other minorities.
But what about the White people that are left behind? What about the White children who, because of school zoning laws, are forced to go to a school that is 90 percent black? Do we really think that that White kid will be able to go one day without being picked on for being White, or called a “white boy”? And who is fighting for him? Who is fighting for these White people forced by economic circumstances to live among negroes? No one, but someone has to.

Here I would also like to touch on the idea of a Norhtwest Front. I think this idea is beyond stupid. Why should I for example, give up the beauty and history of my state to go to the Norhthwest? To me the whole idea just parralells the concept of White people running to the suburbs. The whole idea is pathetic and just another way to run from the problem without facing it.
Some people feel as though the South is beyond saving, that we have too many blacks here. To this I say look at history. The South had a higher ratio of blacks when we were holding them as slaves. Look at South Africa, and how such a small minority held the black in apartheid for years and years. Speaking of South Africa, if anyone thinks that think will eventually just change for the better, consider how in South Africa they have affirmative action for the black population that makes up 80 percent of the population.
It is far from being too late for America or Europe. I believe that even if we made up only 30 percent of the population we could take it back completely. But by no means should we wait any longer to take drastic action.

Anyone who thinks that White and black people look as different as we do on the outside, but are somehow magically the same on the inside, is delusional. How could our faces, skin, hair, and body structure all be different, but our brains be exactly the same? This is the nonsense we are led to believe.
Negroes have lower Iqs, lower impulse control, and higher testosterone levels in generals. These three things alone are a recipe for violent behavior. If a scientist publishes a paper on the differences between the races in Western Europe or Americans, he can expect to lose his job. There are personality traits within human families, and within different breeds of cats or dogs, so why not within the races?
A horse and a donkey can breed and make a mule, but they are still two completely different animals. Just because we can breed with the other races doesnt make us the same.
In a modern history class it is always emphasized that, when talking about “bad” things Whites have done in history, they were White. But when we lern about the numerous, almost countless wonderful things Whites have done, it is never pointed out that these people were White. Yet when we learn about anything important done by a black person in history, it is always pointed out repeatedly that they were black. For example when we learn about how George Washington carver was the first nigger smart enough to open a peanut.

On another subject I want to say this. Many White people feel as though they dont have a unique culture. The reason for this is that White culture is world culture. I dont mean that our culture is made up of other cultures, I mean that our culture has been adopted by everyone in the world. This makes us feel as though our culture isnt special or unique. Say for example that every business man in the world wore a kimono, that every skyscraper was in the shape of a pagoda, that every door was a sliding one, and that everyone ate every meal with chopsticks. This would probably make a Japanese man feel as though he had no unique traditional culture.

I have noticed a great disdain for race mixing White women within the White nationalists community, bordering on insanity it. These women are victims, and they can be saved. Stop.

Jews

Unlike many White naitonalists, I am of the opinion that the majority of American and European jews are White. In my opinion the issues with jews is not their blood, but their identity. I think that if we could somehow destroy the jewish identity, then they wouldnt cause much of a problem. The problem is that Jews look White, and in many cases are White, yet they see themselves as minorities. Just like niggers, most jews are always thinking about the fact that they are jewish. The other issue is that they network. If we could somehow turn every jew blue for 24 hours, I think there would be a mass awakening, because people would be able to see plainly what is going on.

I dont pretend to understand why jews do what they do. They are enigma.



Hispanics

Hispanics are obviously a huge problem for Americans. But there are good hispanics and bad hispanics. I remember while watching hispanic television stations, the shows and even the commercials were more White than our own. They have respect for White beauty, and a good portion of hispanics are White. It is a well known fact that White hispanics make up the elite of most hispanics countries. There is good White blood worht saving in Uruguay, Argentina, Chile and even Brasil.

But they are still our enemies.


East Asians

I have great respent for the East Asian races. Even if we were to go extinct they could carry something on. They are by nature very racist and could be great allies of the White race. I am not opposed at all to allies with the Northeast Asian races.


Patriotism

I hate the sight of the American flag. Modern American patriotism is an absolute joke. People pretending like they have something to be proud while White people are being murdered daily in the streets. Many veterans believe we owe them something for “protecting our way of life” or “protecting our freedom”. But im not sure what way of life they are talking about. How about we protect the White race and stop fighting for the jews. I will say this though, I myself would have rather lived in 1940's American than Nazi Germany, and no this is not ignorance speaking, it is just my opinion. So I dont blame the veterans of any wars up until after Vietnam, because at least they had an American to be proud of and fight for.


An Explanation

To take a saying from a film, “I see all this stuff going on, and I dont see anyone doing anything about it. And it pisses me off.”. To take a saying from my favorite film, “Even if my life is worth less than a speck of dirt, I want to use it for the good of society.”.

I have no choice. I am not in the position to, alone, go into the ghetto and fight. I chose Charleston because it is most historic city in my state, and at one time had the highest ratio of blacks to Whites in the country. We have no skinheads, no real KKK, no one doing anything but talking on the internet. Well someone has to have the bravery to take it to the real world, and I guess that has to be me.

Unfortunately at the time of writing I am in a great hurry and some of my best thoughts, actually many of them have been to be left out and lost forever. But I believe enough great White minds are out there already.

Please forgive any typos, I didnt have time to check it.

http://lastrhodesian.com/data/documents/rtf88.txt


(I'm posting this garbage here just in case it gets taken down.)

Yep, an attack on Christians.....

Said to be #DylannRoof's manifesto.
discovered by @EMQuangel @HenryKrinkIe abt 40 mins ago.
http://lastrhodesian.com





(I'm posting this garbage here just in case it gets taken down.)

Yep, an attack on Christians.....

You know, this gimp is the very tip of a huge ugly reality. How many hundreds of thousands of simpletons believe these same things - or worse? There is so much cognitive dissonance in this drivel, it is almost funny. This poor sap couldn't think his way out of a wet paper bag. But he can go into a church and pull a trigger. This is pretty scary.

You know, this gimp is the very tip of a huge ugly reality. How many hundreds of thousands of simpletons believe these same things - or worse? There is so much cognitive dissonance in this drivel, it is almost funny. This poor sap couldn't think his way out of a wet paper bag. But he can go into a church and pull a trigger. This is pretty scary.

This quote from Gramsci has been making the rounds..


The old world is dying away, and the new world struggles to come forth: now is
the time of monsters. History is at once freedom and necessity

Sort of encapsulates recent savagery.

Glenn Beck Holds Rally At Charleston Confederate War Memorial, Crowd Chants ‘All Lives Matter’ (IMAGES)
AUTHOR: ELIZABETH PRESTON JUNE 19, 2015 6:28 PM

Yesterday, Glenn Beck announced on his show The Glenn Beck Program that he would be traveling to Charleston to “show this community they are loved.”

On the program, when he announced his plans to visit, he said:

“I don’t know why, but this isn’t Ferguson. I don’t know why, but this isn’t Baltimore. This is a place where slave trade happened. . . I have a dog tag from Charleston, South Carolina as part of our history collection, I have an actual dog tag, but it’s not for a dog, it’s for a human being. This is a place that was the heart of darkness at one point. But it’s not anymore. They’re not those people. I refuse to be dragged back into the 1960’s or the 1860’s.”

Umm, it’s not Ferguson or Baltimore because authorities of the state did not carry out the execution of black people, this time. Roof wasn’t a police officer. He wasn’t entrusted with the faith of the people to protect and serve.



However, just because the violence committed wasn’t at the hands of law enforcement doesn’t mean that South Carolina is free of racism. That idea couldn’t be further from the truth. Authority in the state openly support racism. Children are raised in homes where many are taught to embrace “southern heritage” with a history of those very dog tags in which you speak. Leaders of the state have supported the racist heritage by flying the confederate flag high in their state capitol, even after a racially motivated massacre has occurred.

In the seven minute video, Beck continued a diatribe that supported a view that we are living in a post-racial America in response to the senseless killing of nine African-Americans by a known white supremacist with a goal to start a race war.

How can anyone possibly think Beck’s words and actions are those of a rational human being?

He then says, “I don’t know why this shooter shot people,” even though Roof’s motivation for the shooting was known fairly early yesterday after a surviving witness shared the terrorist’s words. But, even if those words were not enough to convince Beck that racism was the motivation, it was confirmed by ABC News at 3:41 p.m. that Dylann Roof planned the attack for months to “start a civil war.”

Beck isn’t even on air until 5 p.m. eastern time.

He continues:

“He might shoot people because he’s a racist. He might have shot people because he is an anarchist. He might have shot people because he hates christians. I don’t know why he shot people. But either way, whether it was because of race or because he is anti-christian or he just wants to stir up trouble, it’s evil. Chaos is evil.”

Seriously, Beck? At dinner time last night you had absolutely no idea why this 21-year-old who “held conservative views” entered a historic black church, listened to a bible study, and then murdered six black women and three black men? It required all of this misinformation disguised as speculation? Just didn’t know, huh?

http://www.addictinginfo.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/ABCNewsSC.jpg


This context is extremely important. It is quite obvious that Beck is avoiding the acknowledgement that racism played the central part in this tragedy. He even goes as far as implying that racism doesn’t exist in South Carolina.

Umm, anyone who has visited South Carolina knows very well that racism is alive and well in the Palmetto State.

Then, in less than 24 hours after Beck was on air stating he didn’t know why this incident was different from Baltimore or Ferguson; he had no idea if the domestic terrorist was motivated by racism – in less than 24 hours after whitewashing racism in South Carolina – he was standing by a Confederate War Memorial, with a crowd of mostly white people, praying, and chanting that “All Lives Matter.”

more.......

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/06/19/glenn-beck-holds-rally-at-charleston-confederate-war-memorial-crowd-chants-all-lives-matter-images/

Technically the monument to Calhoun isn't a 'Confederate War Memorial' as the old bastard croaked before 1860. Too bad, he should have seen Columbia burning.

Guys (or comrades, if you prefer) , don't you see? White, middle-class Americans must "distance" themselves from racism (at least, of the overt, obvious kind), because it's not tolerated in polite society. Of course not. Who do you think we are, Rhodesia?!

This is AMERICA....which has NEVER had any basis in white supremacy...not even when Wall Street and capitalism and the infrastructure of the entire country was built off of the profits and blood, sweat, and hardship of slave labor - and the genocide of the native population. Nope.

Manifest Destiny for $100, Alex.

"Sort of encapsulates recent savagery." And savagery yet to come.

Technically the monument to Calhoun isn't a 'Confederate War Memorial' as the old bastard croaked before 1860. Too bad, he should have seen Columbia burning.

He shoulda been hung.

Guys (or comrades, if you prefer) , don't you see? White, middle-class Americans must "distance" themselves from racism (at least, of the overt, obvious kind), because it's not tolerated in polite society. Of course not. Who do you think we are, Rhodesia?!

This is AMERICA....which has NEVER had any basis in white supremacy...not even when Wall Street and capitalism and the infrastructure of the entire country was built off of the profits and blood, sweat, and hardship of slave labor - and the genocide of the native population. Nope.

Manifest Destiny for $100, Alex.

This is correct. Americans (not only whites) are so trained to prevaricate. Are trained see what isn't there and stay blind to what is. Americans (not only whites) live their whole lives in a make-believe world, where truth, justice, and honor are part of everyday life. History is whitewashed (literally) and everyone toes the line or they are called thugs, anarchists, degenerates, atheists, bums - or worse, commies. All the black folks allowed on TV wanted prayer, forgiveness, coming together. The judge at the little racist pig's bail hearing said the perp's family was just as victimized as the dead black folk's families. Right. Only in this twisted society.

The really bad thing to contemplate: we ain't hit bottom, yet.

snip

A deeper explanation of the Charleston massacre must be found, not in the alleged survival, in unchanged and ahistorical form, of the attitudes of the Jim Crow era, but in the contradictions of contemporary American society and global capitalism in the 21st century.

Racism may describe the motivation of Dylann Roof, but there have been dozens of such mass killings in the past two decades in which the individual motives have varied, but essentially the same social phenomenon has been expressed: alienated individuals, usually acting alone, erupting in homicidal rage against crowds of innocent people: students at Columbine High School and Virginia Tech; moviegoers in Aurora, Colorado; immigrants at a service center in Binghamton, New York; school children and their teachers in Newtown, Connecticut; constituents meeting a congresswoman in Tucson, Arizona.

Mass killings are a social, not individual, phenomenon, and must be understood as manifestations of a social malaise: the deepening contradictions of American capitalism, and, above all, the increasing resort to violence on the part of the American government at all levels.

President Obama noted in his remarks Thursday that “this type of mass violence does not happen in other advanced countries.” The implication was that widespread gun ownership is the problem, another superficial and empty explanation favored by liberals and the Democratic Party.

The reality is that what most distinguishes the United States from all other countries is that the US government is continually engaged in “mass violence” around the world.

more...

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2015/06/20/pers-j20.html

All true, but this analysis dismisses racism a little too blithly, it's function as capitalism's shield against social change. Yet it seems we are indeed living in Gramsci's 'time of monsters', the old order's spastic thrashing death throes.

Bright will fight the 'Stalinist purge' of the Confederate flag


By Chris Lavender
chris.lavender@shj.com
Published: Monday, June 22, 2015 at 8:00 p.m.
Last Modified: Monday, June 22, 2015 at 8:00 p.m.
Some Spartanburg County lawmakers support removing the Confederate battle flag from the Statehouse grounds, but state Sen. Lee Bright, R-Spartanburg, characterized the movement to remove it and other Confederate monuments as a “Stalinist Purge.”

Shortly before Gov. Nikki Haley called on lawmakers to work together to have the flag removed, Bright said the flag doesn't symbolize hate to him but instead recognizes those who had fought with honor during the Civil War. People throughout history have misused symbols, and the Confederate battle flag is not an exception, Bright said. Just because a symbol may be abused doesn't mean it should be banned, he said.

Bright said for example he believed that the Ku Klux Klan has abused the symbol of the cross, but there hasn't been a movement to ban all crosses as a result. Bright said he also believes that outside agitators and the media have latched onto the flag issue creating strife.

Bright said he would not vote to remove the flag from the grounds because doing so would dishonor the memories of those who fought for South Carolina in the Civil War.

For State Rep. Donna Hicks, R-Spartanburg, now is the time for the flag to be removed from the Statehouse grounds. Hicks said she supports the governor's call to have the flag removed and agrees that it should be placed in a museum because the flag's symbol has been used in “so many incidents of hate.”

Haley also has support from State Rep. Derham Cole, R-Spartanburg, to have the flag removed.

http://www.goupstate.com/article/20150622/ARTICLES/150629916

'Stalinist purge', 'outside agitators', let's do the timewarp again. Mr Bright(ironic, huh?) has been regularly positioning himself to the right of the pack since he got to the Statehouse, a surefire formula for electoral success in SC. Ironic too, cause yes, Stalin would do it, as would Lenin or Marx, but Mr Bright thinks it's a bad thing. Interesting that those with higher ambitions have bailed on the filthy rag, but not Lee, his ambition seems to be becoming the 'Pitchfork' Ben Tillman of our time. Spartanburg Co., the heart of the heart of darkness.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Tillman

"Stalinist purge", no shit? Man, this cracker's trick-bag is really just a penny-poke.

"Stalinist purge", no shit? Man, this cracker's trick-bag is really just a penny-poke.

Gotta go with the tried & true and this ain't no time to be railing about welfare queens. The dude is a piece of work, always stakes out the fartherest right turf, and there certainly is a constituency. Still, given low turnout the proper campaign might unseat his sorry ass. Not that his replacement would be any better, perhaps a little more careful. Prehaps a punishment campaign is in order, just to see if we can do it.

"Punishment campaign" has a very attractive ring to it.

"Punishment campaign" has a very attractive ring to it.

Don't it? >) I don't know that it fits the tactics we want but it would be an accomplishment in these parts, 'something', if it could be organized without the wretched Dems getting their hands in it.

KKK plans SC State House rally

The Ku Klux Klan will hold a rally at the S.C. State House next month to protest efforts to remove the Confederate flag from the Capitol grounds.

Any group can request to hold a rally at the State House as long as its grounds are available, said Brian Gaines, a spokesman for the S.C. Budget and Control Board.

The Loyal White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan requested the rally from 3 to 5 p.m. on July 18, Gaines said. The Klan is expecting 100 to 200 to attend, according to a copy of its state event form.

Calling itself the “Largest Klan in America,” the Loyal White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan are based in Pelham, N.C., according to the group’s website.

A man identifying himself as the “great titan” of the N.C. chapter of the Loyal White Knights left a message with The State saying his group is holding the demonstration because “to us they are erasing white history and white culture right out of the history books. That’s why they want to take that flag down.”

S.C. Gov. Nikki Haley, who along with other state political and business leaders has called for banishing the flag from the State House grounds, said of the KKK rally: "This is our state, and they are not welcome."

The S.C. Legislature will take up bills calling for the flag’s removal when lawmakers return to Columbia on July 6. Calls to remove the flag have taken off since nine African-American churchgoers were shot and killed June 17 in Charleston. Authorities have called that massacre a hate crime.

Haley has said she knows the Civil War banner represents Southern heritage to some people. But the flag offends other S.C. residents, who view it was a symbol of oppression, Haley said last week, calling for its removal.

The flag controversy has spurred several State House demonstrations already.

An anti-flag rally three days after the killings drew more than 1,000 people. The Sons of Confederate Veterans held a news event to support the flag Thursday.

http://www.thestate.com/news/politics-government/politics-columns-blogs/the-buzz/article25756306.html

Well, this is a conundrum for those of the 'heritage not hate' school, which side are you on?

PS: Holy shit, 'outside agitators'! Too much.

KKK plans SC State House rally

The Ku Klux Klan will hold a rally at the S.C. State House next month to protest efforts to remove the Confederate flag from the Capitol grounds.

Any group can request to hold a rally at the State House as long as its grounds are available, said Brian Gaines, a spokesman for the S.C. Budget and Control Board.

The Loyal White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan requested the rally from 3 to 5 p.m. on July 18, Gaines said. The Klan is expecting 100 to 200 to attend, according to a copy of its state event form.

Calling itself the “Largest Klan in America,” the Loyal White Knights of the Ku Klux Klan are based in Pelham, N.C., according to the group’s website.

A man identifying himself as the “great titan” of the N.C. chapter of the Loyal White Knights left a message with The State saying his group is holding the demonstration because “to us they are erasing white history and white culture right out of the history books. That’s why they want to take that flag down.”

S.C. Gov. Nikki Haley, who along with other state political and business leaders has called for banishing the flag from the State House grounds, said of the KKK rally: "This is our state, and they are not welcome."

The S.C. Legislature will take up bills calling for the flag’s removal when lawmakers return to Columbia on July 6. Calls to remove the flag have taken off since nine African-American churchgoers were shot and killed June 17 in Charleston. Authorities have called that massacre a hate crime.

Haley has said she knows the Civil War banner represents Southern heritage to some people. But the flag offends other S.C. residents, who view it was a symbol of oppression, Haley said last week, calling for its removal.

The flag controversy has spurred several State House demonstrations already.

An anti-flag rally three days after the killings drew more than 1,000 people. The Sons of Confederate Veterans held a news event to support the flag Thursday.

http://www.thestate.com/news/politics-government/politics-columns-blogs/the-buzz/article25756306.html

Well, this is a conundrum for those of the 'heritage not hate' school, which side are you on?

PS: Holy shit, 'outside agitators'! Too much.

That little pin-headed racist murdering shit may get his race war after all. If all these low-brow cracker-ass pecker-woods come together and there is one black state trooper or black national guardsman present, look out!

http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20150630/PC16/150639930/1177/fire-crews-responding-to-blaze-at-african-american-church-in-greeleyville


UPDATE: Investigators are on scene this morning, and a press conference is set for 10 a.m. The Associated Press is reporting that a federal source says preliminary indications show the fire was not arson.

Flames engulfed a historic African-American church Tuesday night that was already destroyed once by a blaze ignited by the Ku Klux Klan in 1995.

Mount Zion AME Church in Greeleyville is the seventh black church to burn across the South in the wake of the killing of nine worshipers at Charleston’s Emanuel AME Church.

My emphasis. Feds say not arson. Pretty damned quick assessment, eh? This is a bad, bad series of events.

Looks like the wagons are circling. White folks can't be "terrorists", why it would completely skew the whole script!

http://time.com/3942688/black-church-burning-mount-zion-ame-south-carolina/


Parishioners across the South are surveying the damage that a string of similar fires has caused this week, the Southern Poverty Law Center reports, starting in Knoxville, Tenn., on June 21 and moving to Macon, Ga., and Gibson County, in Tennessee, on June 23; Charlotte, N.C., on June 24; Elyria, Ohio, on June 25; and Tallahassee, Fla., and Warrenville, S.C., on June 26.

Three of those fires have been ruled arson, one was determined to be caused by a falling branch and faulty wiring, and the others remain under investigation. Several have been blamed preliminarily on lightning; weather in the South this week has been turbulent.

That damned weather! Only hits black churches - go figure.

The FBI is just stumped. What could be the cause of all these fires?


Three of the fires were being investigated as arson.

The FBI and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives are working with local authorities to find those who set them.

“They’re being investigated to determine who is responsible and what motives are behind them,” FBI spokesman Paul Bresson told BuzzFeed News. “I’m not sure there is any reason to link them together at this point.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/06/29/six-predominately-black-southern-churches-burn-within-a-week-with-arson-suspected-in-at-least-three/

All this with a straight face and only black folks who even seem to care or know about it. "Move along boy, nothing to see here."

The only thing I have heard on broadcast tv is just a blurb of a statement saying some churches have burned and it is being looked into. Real bare-bones stuff.

On twitter last night, one white sympathizer said that what blacks needed was their own media. Evidently the guy had never heard of Glenn Ford. I just could not respond, but what I thought was, 'blacks need their own army'.

Damn, that's some scary shit. I hope that all you guys living down there will be okay.

By the way, here's an interesting video I watched over the weekend:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr-mt1P94cQ