Kicking a dead horse?

[quote]US Supreme Court says passenger can be frisked

January 26, 2009

WASHINGTON --The Supreme Court ruled Monday that police officers have leeway to frisk a passenger in a car stopped for a traffic violation even if nothing indicates the passenger has committed a crime or is about to do so.

The court on Monday unanimously overruled an Arizona appeals court that threw out evidence found during such an encounter.

The case involved a 2002 pat-down search of an Eloy, Ariz., man by an Oro Valley police officer, who found a gun and marijuana.

The justices accepted Arizona's argument that traffic stops are inherently dangerous for police and that pat-downs are permissible when an officer has a reasonable suspicion that the passenger may be armed and dangerous.

The pat-down is allowed if the police "harbor reasonable suspicion that a person subjected to the frisk is armed, and therefore dangerous to the safety of the police and public," Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg said.

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The case is Arizona v. Johnson, 07-1122. [/url]

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2009/01/26/us_supreme_court_says_passenger_can_be_frisked/

Next it will be searching pedestrians in crime-ridden neighborhoods. 'Cause patrolling those areas is inherently dangerous, dontcha know.

"Traffic stops are inherently dangerous for police."

So was slave catching for the bounty hunters.

Next it will be searching pedestrians in crime-ridden neighborhoods. 'Cause patrolling those areas is inherently dangerous, dontcha know.


It almost happened to a "Valley Girl" woman I knew 15 years ago, she was in a chicano neighborhood and the cops stopped her from walking and asked her what she was doing there...told her to get out of a neighborhood she didn't belong in...today they probably would search her...and the reverse situation almost definitely...

Next it will be searching pedestrians in crime-ridden neighborhoods. 'Cause patrolling those areas is inherently dangerous, dontcha know.

Hmm, I dunno. There was an attack in my neighborhood last week and we all had emails about it within hours. I've seen increased patrol presence all week. I have a feeling the cops will be told to keep upscale neighborhoods safe, and will just let people do whatever the hell they want to each other in less affluent areas.

Combine such authoritarian policies with police forces getting filled with veterans of the imperial wars and we got big trouble. Desensitized and with experience in treating the civilian populace as the enemy, they're bringing the war back home. Marines are the worst. Cops kill a few unarmed or 'possibly knife wielding' citizens every year in this county and they always get away with it.

Combine such authoritarian policies with police forces getting filled with veterans of the imperial wars and we got big trouble. Desensitized and with experience in treating the civilian populace as the enemy, they're bringing the war back home. Marines are the worst. Cops kill a few unarmed or 'possibly knife wielding' citizens every year in this county and they always get away with it.


if you look at the statistics, many counties' numbers show that cops kill more people in any given 5 or 10 year period than they've "lost" to cop-killers in the entire existence of their police department which almost always spans more than 100 years and in some cases much more than that

It almost happened to a "Valley Girl" woman I knew 15 years ago, she was in a chicano neighborhood and the cops stopped her from walking and asked her what she was doing there...told her to get out of a neighborhood she didn't belong in

Agree that the cop was hassling her, but there are plenty of areas that are no place for a stupid ass white girl

Agree that the cop was hassling her, but there are plenty of areas that are no place for a stupid ass white girl


Not sure what you're saying.... The cop did her a favor?

Agree that the cop was hassling her, but there are plenty of areas that are no place for a stupid ass white girl


Right.

She belongs in the kitchen.

Right.

She belongs in the kitchen.


Barefoot and pregnant? Or is that part optional?

Right.

She belongs in the kitchen.


Barefoot and pregnant? Or is that part optional?


Some sort or weird reversal going on there...

A Latina would be more at risk in a white neighborhood than a white girl in a Hispanic neighborhood. White folks (and guys) project a lot.

Agree that the cop was hassling her, but there are plenty of areas that are no place for a stupid ass white girl


Right.

She belongs in the kitchen.


Get real Mike.

EDIT: you guys are worse with the liberal haranguing than they are at DU. If you think you can't get stabbed or worse doing stupid shit, I invite you to enter the real world anytime. Its only a thought crime to point that out in guilty liberal circles.

Get real Mike.

EDIT: you guys are worse with the liberal haranguing than they are at DU. If you think you can't get stabbed or worse doing stupid shit, I invite you to enter the real world anytime. Its only a thought crime to point that out in guilty liberal circles.


Ah kid you know I am street smart.

EDIT: you guys are worse with the liberal haranguing than they are at DU. If you think you can't get stabbed or worse doing stupid shit, I invite you to enter the real world anytime. Its only a thought crime to point that out in guilty liberal circles.


Of course you can get stabbed or worse doing stupid shit. Your statement to me, though, had the flavor of "you shouldn't have dressed that way if you weren't asking for it". My apologies if I read in something you didn't intend.

Kid I think I screwed up one of your posts. Sorry.

Oh shit. Somehow I screwed up and posted as kid.

Yes but this is not the first time where you guys start crusader-ing at the drop of a hat. What was the big production you made about gay marriage? If you tried talkin' some of this screwy shit offline people would rightly roll their eyes at you, if they were being polite.

Ya gotta explain better what you mean here.

I am not crusader-ing on anything here. What "big production about gay marriage?" What "haranguing?"

What "screwy shit?" I say the same things offline as I do here.

Oh shit. Somehow I screwed up and posted as kid.


Heh. I used to do that at OET. The buttons all look alike after awhile.

Oh shit. Somehow I screwed up and posted as kid.


Heh. I used to do that at OET. The buttons all look alike after awhile.


I have lectured everyone else about that. Finally did it myself.

Agree that the cop was hassling her, but there are plenty of areas that are no place for a stupid ass white girl


Right.

She belongs in the kitchen.


Get real Mike.

EDIT: you guys are worse with the liberal haranguing than they are at DU. If you think you can't get stabbed or worse doing stupid shit, I invite you to enter the real world anytime. Its only a thought crime to point that out in guilty liberal circles.


Fuck that, the point is she had business there... and the police try to keep the different factions separate, the cop was not trying to be protective according to her. Its all part of the divide and conquer thing...