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blindpig
12-06-2015, 02:06 PM
Lyndon LaRouche: In 1979, the US, CIA, and I already knew that the USSR was to break apart; but I and U.S. intelligence wanted that defeat of the USSR to end happily and with Russia free of nuclear weapons, but the British and their Russian agents in power messed it all up



An interesting talk (confession) by Lyndon LaRouche emerged. It seems that LaRouche made this public speech soon after the outbreak of the 2008 economic crisis.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gYTbfm8LCPI

Lyndon LaRouche at 3:50: In 1979, we in the highest political, intelligence and strategic circles of the US already knew that the USSR would fall apart some years down the road. The process that would make it so had already begun then.

At 5:00ff: I was the original and true father of Regan's Strategic Defense Initiative ("Star Wars")--its real goal was to prepare [and ensure] the crush of the Soviet Empire. The plan was worked out first in the intelligence circles.

At 7:50: Andropov refused my (and Reagan's) Strategic Defense Initiative because he was under the control of the British.

At 8:30-10:15: The Star Wars program was meant to help the USSR get free from its nuclear weapons. Unfortunately, Andropov rejected the plan on which, as its father, had been working from 1975 on.

Objectively, Gorbachev was a traitor to his own country. From the mid 1980s the situation became very clear--people who cannot be characterized otherwise than as traitors of their country. Today, these people are there in power. They might not to be on the utmost top, but they are a very important factor. They are connected to Great Britain. From the mid 1980s there were trained and prepared by British intelligence and today these people occupy key positions in Russia. And they are the key impediment to saving Russia from demise.

At 10:50: Gorbachev and Chubais were part of the British school of treason--both from the Soviet and the Russian patriotic point of view.

At 11:00ff : The main problem of Russia, the main enemy, is the Rothschilds' and British intelligence's control over Russia. It was them, not us, who planned and carried out the devastating policies of Russia and Yeltsin in the 1990s.

http://vladimirsuchan.blogspot.com/2015/12/lyndon-larouche-in-1979-us-cia-and-i.html

I was trying to ignore this but when Vladimir posted this crap on twitter I could not let it pass, discussion in progress. Suffice to say, his credibility takes a big hit, this is stupid.

Dhalgren
12-06-2015, 02:53 PM
Lyndon LaRouche: In 1979, the US, CIA, and I already knew that the USSR was to break apart; but I and U.S. intelligence wanted that defeat of the USSR to end happily and with Russia free of nuclear weapons, but the British and their Russian agents in power messed it all up



An interesting talk (confession) by Lyndon LaRouche emerged. It seems that LaRouche made this public speech soon after the outbreak of the 2008 economic crisis.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=gYTbfm8LCPI

Lyndon LaRouche at 3:50: In 1979, we in the highest political, intelligence and strategic circles of the US already knew that the USSR would fall apart some years down the road. The process that would make it so had already begun then.

At 5:00ff: I was the original and true father of Regan's Strategic Defense Initiative ("Star Wars")--its real goal was to prepare [and ensure] the crush of the Soviet Empire. The plan was worked out first in the intelligence circles.

At 7:50: Andropov refused my (and Reagan's) Strategic Defense Initiative because he was under the control of the British.

At 8:30-10:15: The Star Wars program was meant to help the USSR get free from its nuclear weapons. Unfortunately, Andropov rejected the plan on which, as its father, had been working from 1975 on.

Objectively, Gorbachev was a traitor to his own country. From the mid 1980s the situation became very clear--people who cannot be characterized otherwise than as traitors of their country. Today, these people are there in power. They might not to be on the utmost top, but they are a very important factor. They are connected to Great Britain. From the mid 1980s there were trained and prepared by British intelligence and today these people occupy key positions in Russia. And they are the key impediment to saving Russia from demise.

At 10:50: Gorbachev and Chubais were part of the British school of treason--both from the Soviet and the Russian patriotic point of view.

At 11:00ff : The main problem of Russia, the main enemy, is the Rothschilds' and British intelligence's control over Russia. It was them, not us, who planned and carried out the devastating policies of Russia and Yeltsin in the 1990s.

http://vladimirsuchan.blogspot.com/2015/12/lyndon-larouche-in-1979-us-cia-and-i.html

I was trying to ignore this but when Vladimir posted this crap on twitter I could not let it pass, discussion in progress. Suffice to say, his credibility takes a big hit, this is stupid.

This is too bad. Vlad has at his disposal all of LaRouche's insane gibberish from the 1960s on - it is all available on the webs. Vlad has either shown himself to be unable to discern bullshit when he sees it, or he is just too sloppy to put much store in. Regrettable. This does, however, shed at least a bit of light on his seemingly consistent anti-commie bent.

blindpig
12-06-2015, 07:50 PM
This is too bad. Vlad has at his disposal all of LaRouche's insane gibberish from the 1960s on - it is all available on the webs. Vlad has either shown himself to be unable to discern bullshit when he sees it, or he is just too sloppy to put much store in. Regrettable. This does, however, shed at least a bit of light on his seemingly consistent anti-commie bent.

It gets worse....


Vladimir Suchan ‏@SuchanVladimir Dec 5
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blindpigii ‏@blindpigII 12h12 hours ago
@SuchanVladimir Larouche ain't nothing but a fraud and opportunistic hustler. What next, Trump? Have you jumped the shark?
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Vladimir Suchan ‏@SuchanVladimir 9h9 hours ago
@blindpigII 1)LaRouche has unique access to internal info 2) many Putinists in the West love LaRouche 2)plays the game better than Zhirin
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blindpigii ‏@blindpigII 6h6 hours ago
@SuchanVladimir He gets late night calls from the Illuminati? If the 'Putinists' adore him is that not a red flag? 1/2

blindpigii ‏@blindpigII 6h6 hours ago
@SuchanVladimir #LaRouche is utterly inconsistent, a scientific dingbat, a treacherous faction fighter. an egomaniacal crypto-fascists.

Vladimir Suchan ‏@SuchanVladimir 3h3 hours ago
@blindpigII In that speech, he put himself high up in the highest echelons of the Cold War machine.

Vladimir Suchan ‏@SuchanVladimir 3h3 hours ago
@blindpigII in this theater, there are puppets, comedians etc. With him I am seeing one of the true elders who likes the stage too.Like Nero

Dear fuckin' gawd, it's like talking to SLAD.

This is what philosophy will get ya shorn of materialism.

Dhalgren
12-06-2015, 09:17 PM
This is what philosophy will get ya shorn of materialism.

In a word, "Yes". Vlad has no idea, no concept, of whom he is dealing. I now doubt Vlad was ever a commie. Anax once said that you had to be a materialist first, before you could be a commie. I don't think you can forget this much materialism - I don't think he ever was one...

blindpig
06-03-2016, 09:22 AM
This, after that very reasonable critique of Kremlin behavior of a few days past. is nuts. The guy is schizophrenic.

Chaos Theory Has Played a Key Role in the Controlled Colonization of Russia and Its Current Controlled Demolition via the Vlasov Regime Filled with Fake Saviors and Friends, but Real Bastards

http://euromaidanpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/25january.jpg
This the now famous and historical photo from the founding of the Committee of January 25. Note Egor Prosvirnin in the back, who faithful to his role as a planted Joker, does what he cannot help doing and what he does best--he is doing his best to subvert and invert the act by becoming the royal troll of what he is supposed to represent here together with others led by Igor Strelkov.

His thumb over his lips is an old sign of secrecy and silence. He is not the mission here, and the mission is not what it appears to be on the outside. But, as a joker, he cannot help leaving a clue, a teaser, and the clue itself plays a major role in Prosvirnin's subversion and inversion of the scene.

On his elbow he flashes the sign of the Star of Chaos:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/44/Chaos_star.svg/220px-Chaos_star.svg.png


According to the official legend or story, the Symbol of Chaos originates from Michael Moorcock's Eternal Champion stories. The plot of The Eternal Champion is built around the idea and vow of genocide directed against the humans by its hero Erekosë to "prove his love" to a Tanit-like superhuman character:


"I swear I shall kill all the Eldren."
"All?"
"Every single Eldren life."
"You will spare none?"
"None! None! I want it to be over. And the only way I can finish it is to kill them all. Then it will be over—only then!"
"Including Prince Arjavh and his sister?"
"Including them!"
"You swear this? You swear it?"
"I swear it. And when the last Eldren dies, when the whole world is ours, then I will bring it to you and we shall be married."


The Symbol of Chaos comprises eight arrows in a radial pattern. In contrast, the symbol of Law is a single upright arrow. It is also called the Arms of Chaos, the Arrows of Chaos, the Chaos Star, the Chaos Cross, the Chaosphere, or the Symbol of Eight.

The allusion to "Eight" is cryptic too: it shows up on many of the contemporary depictions of Lady Luck or old Fortuna (Machiavelli's sought-after prize of his Prince).

http://i.ebayimg.com/images/i/190905940999-0-1/s-l1000.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRccMzTz8R93bUpOaDb0v7Be7dAqoiFEJYK309ebzuhg2pPP0zp2w

Eight is considered a lucky number in Chinese culture because it sounds like the word meaning to generate wealth. In numerology, 8 is the number of building, and in some theories, also the number of destruction. In astrology, Scorpio is the 8th astrological sign of the Zodiac. In poker, a "Dead Man's Hand" consists of two pairs; aces and eights. An "eighth" is a common measurement of marijuana, meaning an eighth of an ounce. It is also a common unit of sale for psilocybin mushrooms. Also, an eighth of an ounce of cocaine is commonly referred to as an "8-ball." "Section 8" is common U.S. slang for "crazy", based on the U.S. military's Section 8 discharge for mentally unfit personnel. "Behind the eight ball" is an idiom for a difficult position from which it is unlikely one can escape.

Going back to Chaos and its Star: "Chaos theory suggests that small changes at the beginning of a trajectory will create large changes in the distant future. This is often called the butterfly effect.
The chaos star has – as one would expect from a star that symbolizes chaos." The meaning of chaos does also cover the sense of evil, negativity, and destruction. As a symbol of "all possibilities," it is then also a cry of freedom as well as nihilism and its slogan "Everything is possible," the corollary of which is "IF everything is possible, then everything is also permitted."

In strategy and politics (and this also applies to the way in which Russia is being handled and in which the Soviet Union was defeated), the emphasis is on non-lineal strategies--strategies that put the premium on subversion, inversion, surprise, the unexpected, the irrational, the fake, the false ... on something which, in war and in politics, comes as close as possible to (black) magic. Thus, not entirely whimsically, it may be said that the message of "Lady Luck" is "(Ha)lucin-ate!" When anyone pays attention to Surkovian propaganda and info war aimed against Russia's own people and society, then one begins to see that its goal is inducing hallucination in the minds of the people on massive scale (for example, through all the bogus deification of Putin the Little whom Surkov himself once called "empty," while elsewhere he claimed that he was sent by God or through all the fictitious triumphs and non-existent victories ascribed to Putin). Inducing such a state of society might be one of the highs of how "victory" feels on the other side of the Atlantic.

Chaos as No. 8 is Justice put on its side--into a position of seemingly infinite and unbreakable loops of injustice and untruth.

Going back to Prosvirnin. He is by his own very nature, intellect and talents almost as perfect an agent of Chaos as is Surkov.

http://vladimirsuchan.blogspot.com/2016/06/chaos-theory-has-played-key-role-in.html

So if the Committee of January 25 is being subverted why doesn't he tell us how?

What the holy fuck, this is PI redux, time to cut this dude loose.

Dhalgren
06-03-2016, 12:40 PM
So if the Committee of January 25 is being subverted why doesn't he tell us how?

What the holy fuck, this is PI redux, time to cut this dude loose.

I concur. He is a source of news (filtered through his...condition), but other wise, a dead leaf...

blindpig
07-03-2016, 04:05 PM
A process that started with the liquidation of Stalin is now progressing towards its next liquidation stage: Russia is collapsing mainly through the "vacuum-cum-black-hole" established in the character, minds, and hearts of the Russian leadership and elite from which it is spreading into the whole society; if AIDS had a political and civilizational equivalent, this would be it
The Putin Command, the Party of Terminal Dismantlement and Degradation: National Demise through Systematic and Systemic Corruption: A Black Hole as a Program of Final Capitulation

In placing the memorial plaque to Marshal Carl Mannerheim, a commander-in chief of one of the fascist invading armies in World War II, in downtown Leningrad, for which the Kremlin purposely dispatched there Putin's Chief of Staff personally in addition to having Russian troops giving their salute to the Marshal and the plaque, the Kremlin did clearly intend to send a cuing-in message to the Russian people. Symbolically, this act has brought into the center of the city which Mannerheim tried to conquer and destroy as an invader and occupier.

The act of honoring the Iron-Cross-decorated Marshal and having the Russian army itself honor him in particular is tantamount to a declaration of the city's surrender. In other words, the symbolic message of this act is one of surrender and occupation, which is also the meaning of the Yeltsin memorial center and the meaning of the Minsk Agreements.

The material basis of his symbolic fact is the closure and destruction of 40,000 factories under Putin's reign, Russia's de-industrialization, loss of its mobilization capacity, and the reduction of the general level of wages and pensions towards $100 a month (forget the official average of 27,000 rubles). For the last 25-30 years one once's mighty superpower and country has been on sale for dumping prices.

Still, while the plague might make look as if the Kremlin is capitulating to a Finnish commander, the geopolitical truth and fact is, of course, somewhat different. But to put there an American general or a NATO general instead would be going somewhat ahead--but honoring Mannerheim is a logical step or stepping stone in that very direction. Moreover, all the telegraphic lines above have already been decided and sealed by the defeat in Ukraine and the loss of Ukraine, which the Minsk Agreements ratified as a strategic and geopolitical fact.

With Ukraine, including the Kharkov area, available to the West, the position of Moscow, downtown Moscow only some 400 miles away, is similar to a town below a mountain occupied by the opponent. The Moscow-policed prohibition on the Novorossiya/Donbass forces to do anything except for disengaging/ceding war and territory is tantamount to Moscow's acceptance of its submission and acceptance of this fate. The rest are details and modalities to be filled in.

In retrospect, the beginning of the surrender began with the assassination of Stalin, followed by massive purges and numerous executions in the Soviet apparatus, the army and the KGB. This was then followed by the careful and gradual preparation of new sufficiently "flexible" cadres, starting from above (viz the case of Yakovlev and other future high echelon leaders sent on various studies to the West; this process became accelerated in the 1970s and included, for example, also some of the key players in the Czechoslovak Velvet Revolution).

The corner stone of the surrender and one of the key strategic decisions making the demise of the Soviet Union and the world socialist system a foregone conclusion was the 1975 decision of the Politburo of the Soviet Communist Party, prepared by the KGB, to begin "rolling back" the world social system, which, ironically, was made at the very greatest extent and geopolitical peak of the system--when Vietnam won the war and last (Portugal) colonies in Africa gained independence. By the late 1970s, the coming demise and disintegration of the Soviet Union and the world socialist system was already understood as fact in making by the inner circles in the West. The concomitant end and demise of Yugoslavia was similarly also known and projected more or less at the same time--or in the early 1980s at the latest.

The end of Soviet communism as a system in 1989-91 was a partially public enactment of the strategic decisions made on op more than a decade before. At least.

Russia is now entering the terminal phase of its Cold War capitulation and surrender. The US and its allies are dictating terms at their leisure now. And Putin and his clique are the agents of this capitulation--that's why under Putin Russia "forgave"--as undoubtedly dictated to Moscow--some $150 billion of old Soviet credits to other countries; hence the currently ongoing peace talks with Japan; thus the recent surrender of pieces of land of China under Putin, and the big gift of sea shelf given to Norway by Medvedev in 2010.

The capitulation has been spread over these years; first Russia gave up nearly all of its military secrets and all its weaponized, enriched uranium reserves; then the Soviet Union via Shevardnadze gave the US a huge area in the Bering Sea (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USSR%E2%80%93USA_Maritime_Boundary_Agreement); then the Soviets turned all the secret personnel files to the West ...

Then after building up a cult of Putin's personality the new and perhaps last phase started now

Moscow has now tough time keeping its mask/face. Most Russians did not take kindly the way Putin made it up with Erdogan.

Final and unconditional capitulation as “self-liberation”—from oneself

What we are witnessing and what some of us are able to see as happening is the gradual fulfillment of a strategic, geopolitical grand-plan co-authored or partially disclosed back in 1997, before Putin even became President, by Zbigniev Brzezinski:
Thus, none of the counteralliance options [to be left to Russia], in the final analysis, offer a viable alternative. The solution to Russia's new geopolitical dilemmas will not be found in counteralliance, nor will it come about through the illusion of a coequal strategic partnership with America or in the effort to create some new politically and economically "integrated" structure in the space of the former Soviet Union. All evade the only choice that is in fact open to Russia. Russia's only real geostrategic option—the option that could give Russia a realistic international role and alsomaximize the opportunity of transforming and socially modernizing itself—is Europe. And not just any Europe, but the transatlantic Europe of the enlarging EU and NATO. Such a Europe is taking shape, as we have seen in chapter 3, and it is also likely to remain linked closely to America. That is the Europe to which Russia will have to relate, if it is to avoid dangerous geopolitical isolation. For America, Russia is much too weak to be a partner but still too strong to be simply its patient … For many Russians, the dilemma of the one alternative may at first, and for some time to come, be too difficult to resolve. It will require an enormous act of political will and perhaps also an outstanding leader, capable of making the choice and articulating the vision of a democratic, national, truly modern and European Russia. That may not happen for some time. Overcoming the post-Communist and postimperial crises will require not only more time than is the case with the post-Communist transformation of Central Europe but also the emergence of a farsighted and stable political leadership. No Russian Ataturk is now in sight. Nonetheless, Russians will eventually have to come to recognize that Russia's national redefinition is not an act of capitulation but one of liberation. They will have to accept that what Yeltsin said in Kiev in 1990 about a nonimperial future for Russia was absolutely on the mark. And a genuinely nonimperial Russia will still be a great power, spanning Eurasia, the world's largest territorial unit by far. In any case, a redefinition of "What is Russia and where is Russia" will probably occur only by stages, and it will require a wise and firm Western posture. America and Europe will have to help. They should offer Russia not only a special treaty or charter with NATO, but they should also begin the process of exploring with Russia the shaping of an eventual transcontinental system of security and cooperation that goes considerably beyond the loose structure of the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE). And if Russia consolidates its internal democratic institutions and makes tangible progress in free-market-based economic development, its ever-closer association with NATO and the EU should not be ruled out. At the same time, it is equally important for the West, especially for America, to pursue policies that perpetuate the dilemma of the one alternative for Russia. The political and economic stabilization of the new post-Soviet states is a major factor in necessitating Russia's historical self-redefinition. Hence, support for the new post-Soviet states—for geopolitical pluralism in the space of the former Soviet empire—has to be an integral part of a policy designed to induce Russia to exercise unambiguously its European option. Among these states, three are geopolitically especially important: Azerbaijan, Uzbekistan, and Ukraine. … Although that will take time, it is not too early for the West—while further enhancing its economic and security ties with Kiev—to begin pointing to the decade 2005-2015 as a reasonable time frame for the initiation of Ukraine's progressive inclusion … Indeed, Ukraine's relationship to Europe could be the turning point for Russia itself. But that also means that the defining moment for Russia's relationship to Europe is still some time off—"defining" in the sense that Ukraine's choice in favor of Europe will bring to a head Russia's decision regarding the next phase of its history: either to be a part of Europe as well or to become a Eurasian outcast, neither truly of Europe nor Asia and mired in its "near abroad" conflicts. … One cannot predict how fast that process can move, but one thing is certain: it will move faster if a geopolitical context is shaped that propels Russia in that direction, while foreclosing other temptations. And the faster Russia moves toward Europe, the sooner the black hole of Eurasia will be filled by a society that is increasingly modern and democratic. Indeed, for Russia the dilemma of the one alternative is no longer a matter of making a geopolitical choice but of facing up to the imperatives of survival.



Russians too are now beginning to wake up to the gradually disrobed truth and the exigencies of the situation and its conditions that have been carefully planned, planted, and crafted over decades:

http://rnoflyzone.livejournal.com/619277.html:

Как кремлины будут сливаться? У них нет другого выхода в их системе ограничений.
Москва исключает серьезное противостояние с Западом и какие-либо анти западные действия, плюс, она загнала себя безотносительно украинского кризиса в катастрофическое дипломатическое положение, оказавшись вообще без союзников. Кризис лишь выявил это и катализировал дипломатический крах. Минский курс был неким компромиссом между патриотической риторикой и желанием сразу слиться.

Видно, что затея не удалась, ЕС полностью сплотился вокруг санкций, и Кремлю больше ничего не остается делать в его системе ограничений, кроме как сливаться. Остается вопрос, как они это будут делать? В любом случае, даже если они наврут самим себе и соберутся противостоять США, они захотят подготовиться по лучше к этому, а для этого нужно время, которое можно выгадать новым сливом.

Можно предположить такой сценарий, медленное, постепенное отступление под американским давлением до конца. Захотел Обама миротворцев? Давайте обсуждать, пока Обама не рассердится и не пригрозит новыми санкциями. Тогда согласимся. И так далее.

Это похоже на правду, так как в Кремле предпочитают слив через ничего не делание, и какого-либо способа прилично слиться они так и не придумали. Но сливаться надо, так что просто будут продолжать ничего не делать и на все постепенно соглашаться. Так оно и само и сольется. То есть, активные американцы будут работать, а кремлины вальяжно ничего не делать.
Posted by Vladimír Suchan at 12:58 PM

http://vladimirsuchan.blogspot.com/2016/07/a-process-that-started-with-liquidation.html?spref=tw

blindpig
07-05-2016, 02:09 PM
Testinomy: The basic, strategic bluenprint for the demise of the Soviet Union and the world socialist system was drafted and agreed upon with the US at an Austrian chateau in 1972-1974

Yet more concrete evidence about what I have been arguing since the early 1990s: the Soviet Union and the world socialist system was dismantled deliberately from above, and the operation had been planned and carefully prepared over decades. As the article below reveals, a key role, especially in the preparation of the new liquidation personnel, leadership and cadres and the strategies, were carried via the US-USSR jointly established "International Institute for Applied System Analysis" linked to the Club of Rome . The Institute was set up in 1972. In 1974, it already produced a blueprint of the breakup of the Soviet Union with the approval by Andropov and Kosygin, and then went on "educating" and training the principal anti-heroes of the 1990s and the 2000s - the principal regents and strategists retained by Putin.

snip


"Andropov, and Kosygin want to isolate Russia from the Soviet Union and make it an appendage of the West," boiler room "sort and deliver the Western world that we have today, and supply - oil, gas and other energy resources, and thus live a normal life"
What changed? It is necessary to get rid of "ballast" - destroy the country, cut off pieces: Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Moldova, Armenia. Maybe while preserving part of the Baltic. However, I think that this was not their intention. They want to isolate Russia from the Soviet Union and make it an appendage of the West, "boiler room" sort and deliver the Western world that we have today, and supply - oil, gas and other energy resources, and thus live a normal life. - That is, they want to escape out of the collapse of the Soviet Union, which they seemed inevitable, and to ensure a normal level of elite life? - No, they wanted to provide a normal life for all people. - Thus, in the bud, it was quite humane idea? - that's the thing that they did not want to gangster capitalism, they would leave the democratic socialism, but at the same time allow private ownership. And in the West to buy high-tech - they would normally. Of course, the matter is not as thought Andropov and the more Kosygin, who can not be suspected that he is not a Communist. They just understand that they can not afford to keep on the shoulders of this great state. By virtue of it was Stalin, and the recipients of its understanding that the bulk will fall soon, but give power to someone they feared. It was possible to hold a referendum on the matter, the decision to call for the best minds, they began to act in secret. But it is in any case did not want this cruel capitalism, which we now have.

Translated by Google

http://vladimirsuchan.blogspot.com/2016/07/testinomy-basic-strategic-bluenprint.html

I find it difficult to believe that Andropov and Kosygin, old warriors, could be that naive.

blindpig
07-07-2016, 12:21 PM
V Suchan posted this at his site but I don't think he wrote it. A lot of this rings true, more so than some of the more fanciful depictions of events that the poet has proffered.

Russia Had Its Fascist Maidan Already in October of 1993

Russian Black Days
Thousands of corpses of ordinary Muscovites who were killed in the "White House" and "Ostankino", secretly burned in crematoria few days
about the carnage of October 3-4, 1993 in Moscow, the authorities prefer not to remind. But to erase from human memory can not. Therefore, we are 20 years old are taught that in those days, they say, the Democrats led by President Boris Yeltsin heroically fought for freedom and guaranteeing its Constitution. And they won the final victory over opponents of market reforms: Vice President Alexander Rutskoi and Chairman of the Supreme Council Ruslan Khasbulatov, who allegedly wanted to wrest power from the President and rule the country. As for the victims - so it's been the Nazis, fanatical communists, guerrillas and the marginalized, and killed all 160 people.
"Express newspaper" never sang this deceitful cynical chorus and sought to bring the truth about the tragedy.
Two years of Yeltsin's reforms launched in August 1991, dropped all the workers at the bottom of the social life and erected on a pedestal of those people who knew how to "shadow businesses", profiteers and speculators. In the first parliament, they did not run. We do not see the point to break away from the opened possibilities of legal plunder to talking shop. Therefore, in 1991, the Parliament was not one of the party nomenklatura, and mainly from people of wage labor, which in the hot battles advanced labor groups. In short, he was the only one since 1917 and the present time truly democratic - elected by the population without the "carousel" and fraud. Most people genuinely believed that the democratically elected president and parliament, piled-Trepachev Communist Mikhail Gorbachev , will change life for the better. But it happened otherwise.

http://www.eg.ru/upimg/photo/168704.jpg

In August 1993, Yeltsin and Khasbulatov due to predatory reforms became bitter enemies, and the president warned the people through the media: "We are currently conducting artillery preparation. The decisive battle to be in October. " Photo: RIA "Novosti"

The reasons for the protest
Born in the early 90s can not even imagine what the avalanche of troubles came down on the heads of their parents and grandparents.
1 January 1992 came the "shock therapy" of Yegor Gaidar : introduction of a 28 percent value-added tax and price liberalization. Within days, the population was poor: savings have turned to dust, salaries, pensions and benefits are impaired. The work was not: the factories and farms either stood or could not pay the workers. The time of barter and criminal business. Russia has become a country of tillage and lads - all strewn cemetery graves are served in their ranks of unemployed youth. In the spring of the concept of creative work itself sunk into oblivion together with his constitutional right guaranteed payment. Soviet "egalitarianism" has replaced "kidalovo" - domestic and public. And then, when half of the country, straining, chelnochilo, carrying on itself here and there all hoping to resell and to carve out a family at least some penny, officers shoot from the fact that they have nothing to feed the children, and hard workers and pensioners for months waiting for salary , launched by voucher privatization Chubais . Impoverish the population were given pieces of paper with the right to a share of ownership of state enterprises. And almost immediately Rogues like Roman Abramovich and surrogates of officials and criminals have rushed to buy them for next to nothing. "Wrappers" People are selling because they were afraid at all be left with nothing.

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Life became even harder. Kindergartens disappeared, turning into offices. Villages emptied, the cattle was slaughtered, fertile fields were empty. Such a large number of homeless, hungry children Russia have not seen even in war. Many slept in the sewers and were podsazheny drug. Prostitution flourished, including children.
July 26, 1993 The Central Bank of Russia decided to withdraw from circulation banknotes sample of 1961 - 1992. It was, in fact, confiscatory reform: under the auspices of the fight against inflation, but really to force CIS to abandon the settlements in rubles and get used to the dollar, the Russians in the midst of the holiday robbed again. Prices began to rise with even greater speed. Increase by clearly underestimated According to official statistics, 9.8 times for the year!
Academician Tatyana Zaslavsky , a great supporter of the reforms was a part of that time in President Yeltsin's administration, he admitted through the decade and a half, only three years of shock therapy in Russia alone middle-aged man died 12 million.! But that fall on TV raced: finally we were given the freedom and slavery accustomed to the Soviet Russian people are not able to use it. Everyday cynical mockery so sick of people that have a significant part could actually rise - just a match must offer.
Indicative penalty
All two years, Parliament tried to resist the avalanche of predatory liberal reforms aimed at one thing - the legalization of "stuck" at the time of privatization. Rogue prevented Constitution. Emerging oligarchy had to urgently change the fundamental law of Russia, announced that the land and subsoil of the property is not "efficient owners", and all the people, and gave a lot of the right to elect their authorities. . Especially the Supreme Council of
one of the first publicly began to resist first pro-Western liberal reforms, and then personally Yeltsin, his former colleague - the head of the Supreme Council Ruslan Khasbulatov .
Ridicule history, but around Khasbulatov concentrated former supporters of Yeltsin, many of whom supported him during the coup 21 August 1991 They realized that under the guise of "democracy and reforms," ​​Boris Nikolaevich arranges the genocide of their own people, according to the country under the control of Western creditors and the IMF advisors.

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Since March 1992, near the Kremlin gathered daily plundered state people, and their power is not dispersed - I waited ripe revolutionary situation

Since the end of August at the House of Soviets - and I myself saw it - taking turns on duty deceived in their hopes and Research Institute, the workers, who were farmers, teachers, doctors, retired officers, representatives of small and medium-sized businesses, students and pensioners. Many specially come to Moscow from all over the impoverished and humiliated Russia. How many of them were killed on October 3-4, 1993 - exactly what we do not know.
One thing is clear: the so-called shooting "The White House" - is indicative public execution, cold-blooded act of intimidation of all who naively believed that the people have at least some of this power -What value.
Chronicle two terrible days
3 October. Herded like cattle to the slaughter
14.00 on October Square rally of ten thousand. Supporters of the Parliament headed towards the Krymsky Bridge. Before the bridge a certain group of young people marching with the column, pulled out of the bag and began to throw stones at them from the police cordon. Those in response floated "Cheryomukha" and batons. 15.00 Ministry of Internal Affairs received the order to open fire. Killed 26 civilians and two police officers. But the giant column broke through the fence and crossed the bridge. Rejoicing, people were thrown into the river "captured" police shields and batons and were pleased that the front of the column skedaddle frightened police. The demonstrators did not suspect that they were escorting a trap. Before cordon at the House of Soviets police suddenly vanished, and the demonstrators almost no problems were at the "White House". 15.30 Garrison House of Soviets was ordered Khasbulatov and Rutskoi not shoot in any case.

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People - and unbelieving, and the believer - Yeltsin protested against the junta. But the media still assure Russians that Parliament defended only the Nazis and the marginalized, and killing them without charge or trial - a feat

15.45 Yeltsin's units began shooting from the City Hall - the former CMEA. These roofs with hotel "Mir" and "Ukraine" joined snipers "Jericho" Israeli special forces and plainclothes men "Beitar" - the Jewish youth sports and paramilitary organization. We are aiming at passers-by, women and children. Later beytarovtsy went outside and shot the defenders of the parliament under the guise of an APC division them. Dzerzhinsky.
After sniping from rooftops in the back unarmed military Sofrinsky brigade of internal troops, which is composed of 350 people came to the aid of the police, on the side of the Parliament on the orders of the commander moved almost all of its fighters. Until now, there are disputes: whether it was Colonel response Vasilyeva the loss of two of his subordinates, came under "friendly fire", or cunning, allowed sofrintsam join the ranks of the rebels as "their own", and then act according to circumstances, and to complete the task - provoke a massacre and destroy demonstrators. One way or another, but in the "White House" Sofrinsky defectors believe. 16.00 Defense Minister Pavel Grachev ordered army units to join the Ministry of Internal Affairs. Yeltsin signed a decree number 1575 and freed the army from criminal liability. 16.05 Rutskoi called on the people to storm the town hall and the "Ostankino". Five floors of City Hall were taken in a matter of minutes without a shot being fired. Surrendered seven soldiers Dzerzhinsky Division, Major Interior Ministry and several guards. All were released. Supporters of the sun to strengthen the idea that the army and police for example sofrintsev will not shoot at the people. According to the setting of Michael Poltoranina , who obeyed all the media, radio and television did not give opponents of Yeltsin's words. His order read: "... in addition to the freedom of speech, there are things more important. I ask you to very easily take the events that will take place October 4, 1993 ".

After examination of the defenders surrendered database of people in the stadium "Krasnaya Presnya": Who in the spray, one in jail or on the will of a subscription to disclose. Photo: RIA "Novosti"
16.30 Rutskoi, ignoring protests from MPs forms the column on "Ostankino". It is still unknown as to the way the supporters of Parliament were empty truck with the keys in the ignition. 17.00 At Telecentre started a rally for the provision of air. And the gates of the trucks who opened the police guarding the telecentre. Its halls were already gunners. For two hours they kept the rebels at gunpoint, one of the leaders of the channels did not come out to the strikers. 19.00 Protesters headed to another TV chassis. And then on have appeared in the doorway between the two buildings, people began firing machine guns. All these years we were told that opened fire after killing demonstrators video engineer, but it proved that they did not have a weapon from which a bullet was released.

19.45 TV stopped. The road to the television center "Ostankino" was blocked by the divisional MIA on trucks and armored personnel carriers. Even shelling machines of "first" and the stretcher-bearers.
According to official figures, 46 people were killed there. According to the obtained in the course of independent investigations - more than 500. In the pauses between the fire and grabbed the living somewhere they took away - Journalists in the "Sailor's silence". The wounded were finished. Unarmed boy in Cossack clothes previously shot in the arms and legs.

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On the anniversary of the bloody October thousands of dead relatives took to the streets, demanding an investigation of the crime. In vain! Photo: RIA "Novosti"

The 4th of October. To undress and raped
00.10 In support of several thousand supporters of Yeltsin, at the call of Yegor Gaidar gathered at the Moscow City Council, the Central Television literally yelled actress Lily Akhedzhakova : "... damn Constitution ... How this army? Why is it we do not protect against this damn Constitution? .. My Friends! Wake up! Do not sleep! Our unhappy homeland is in danger! We threaten terrible things. Again come communists "Ah! Grigory Yavlinsky on the channel RTR claimed:" I call on all the forces that have not lost their conscience and are not clouded mind to join the security forces, the forces of order, the forces of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and defend the future ". 04.30 It began moving troops, equipment and police forces to the House of the Soviets. An hour was pulled troops the Taman Division, 119th Parachute Regiment, Kantemir division Dzerzhinsky division, Smolensk riot police, the Tula Airborne Division. 06.50 In the House of Soviets first shots were fired, as supporters of the parliament began to throw in the approaching APC firebombs . A car caught fire, she dismounted from the Volunteers - Afghan veterans, who spoke on the side of Yeltsin. They tried to hide behind the trees. But then Taman saw armed men in civilian clothes, took them for the defenders of the "White House" and opened fire. Commanders of the crews of the four APCs of internal troops on their way to the area, on the other hand, felt that the opposition APC shoot. And they began indiscriminate firing. Taman decided that they would go to the aid of the rebels and opened fire on them. As a result of this exchange of fire killed the driver of the "Afghan" truck commander and soldier two APCs, many wounded. Following because of confusion in battle with each other to take Dzerzhinsky and paratroopers of the 119th Regiment. Killing two, several wounded. After another three hours Taman met the fire, two armored personnel carriers division of internal troops. Grand total - nine dead and dozens wounded, six burnt-out armored personnel carriers.

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The unequal battle: tens of thousands of Muscovites were trying to break through to the aid of besieged parliament

08.00 armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles began shooting the barricades, then moved on unarmed people, all night on duty in the square and opened fire at the windows of the House of Soviets. 10.00 Tanks Taman Division opened fire, "White House." According to official data of the Ministry of Defense, when the storming of spent tank shells 12: 10 high-explosive and 2 piercing. Rutskoi ordered not to return fire, hoping to derive from a burning building the elderly, women and children. But his repeated requests were ignored. With the "World" and "Ukraine" roofs of houses, hotels, snipers fired - and the defenders of the House of Soviets in which the troops were "cleansing", and in the military, to induce in them the fury. Snipers fired on and the windows of nearby residential buildings - so residents do not stare, and there were fewer witnesses. At the time of the attack in the "White House" there were about 10 thousand people, including women and children.. According to the organization "Memorial", part of the corpses of those killed in the database, was destroyed in crematoria without paperwork, some secretly buried in one of the military ranges in the suburbs. People wade yards to the House of the Soviets or from him, riot militiamen killed and raped in the hallways. In one of these traps in Deep Lane hit 60 people. How to set the legendary weightlifter Yuri Vlasov, after all the torture murdered women before execution stripped naked and raped. 14.30 Of the House of Soviets surrendered first came out. 15.30 Government troops resumed artillery shelling and automata. 16.45 Of the House of Soviets was a massive output of hundreds of people. They walked between two rows of soldiers, holding his hands behind his head. They were herded into buses and taken to sort the stadium "Krasnaya Presnya". There was arranged a temporary concentration camp for 600 people, selected from the defenders surrendered to the House of Soviets. On the evening of 4 October all night people were shot. Periodically, someone released. Around five in the morning shot of the Cossacks. According to the deputy from the Chelyabinsk region Anatoly Baronenko, the stadium was killed about 300 people, including schoolchildren and women doctors, who from what he saw, became hysterical. 17.30 Rutskoi, Khasbulatov and Makashov asked that Western ambassadors accredited in Russia gave them security guarantees. Half an hour later, all three were arrested. 19.10 By burning the House of the Soviets pulled fire engines. The smell of burnt and charred bodies of the wind drove to Moscow overnight. Mopping floors, "the White House" to continue. It began on the streets looting and mockery of the corpses. Shots were heard in the capital overnight.

Final detective
The next morning the center of Moscow circled hearing: 75-year-old retired veteran, who lived not far from the stadium Krasnopresnensky saved eight guys: risking their lives, endured injuries on himself and pulls into his apartment. That same morning, "Izvestia" published a letter from a group of writers, including Yuri Nagibina , Daniel Granik and Bulat Okudzhava . In it, the authors thank the army and the police were called and the defenders of the "White House" fascists and murderers.
Okudjava admitted: "For me it (. The shooting of the House of Soviets - EK ) was the final of the detective. I enjoyed it. I hated these people, and even in such a situation no pity from me to them was not at all. " Under such jubilant songs Judases Yeltsin We clean the traces of the crime.
Starting from 5 October in the crematoria of St. Nicholas and the Archangel Khovanskii cemeteries three nights burned "corpses in bags." In the first cremated remains of 200 unidentified people, the second - 300. October 9 from the morgue of the Institute Sklifosovsky 201 unidentified taken in an unknown direction.
So in that same cost Yeltsin rebellion? According to official figures, two days killed 146 people. But there is a document that denies them. The official certificate for 1993, signed by Deputy Prosecutor of Moscow and the Deputy Minister of Internal Affairs, referred to more than 2,200 unidentified corpses cremated 1993 in Moscow. In comparison, for the entire 1992 in the capital, only about 180 unidentified bodies, and for 1994 it was discovered - 110.
It turns out that a couple of days in the city center were shot over two thousand Muscovites. But before the court of the Yeltsin gang has still not brought a single person.
quotations
We are not under the Constitution with Yeltsin costs, and economic policy. We arrived Harvard-Nerds experts and Yeltsin imposed the so-called criterion of the Washington Consensus - those liberal reforms. I was against it. Because I am a professional economist and long known that this consensus had once crashed. Are you saying crazy? I then with Camdessus, IMF president, spoke. So, you know what he told me? "Do you still regret it!" So I said. 20 years have passed! The United Nations set up a commission headed by the Nobel Prize Stiglisom. He has written the report, the main conclusion is: "Washington Consensus doomed the world ... the crisis." World sensation! And no b ... dv, sorry, we do not talk about it and do not remember that I criticized the concept as soon as it was offered to us! We would like gouging and did it. Ruslan Khasbulatov, Chairman of the Armed Forces in October '93 Rostov riot police arrived in Moscow. I ask: "Why execute a criminal order?" They say: "Two mu ... and fighting for power. One - Russian, the other - a Chechen. So we are better Russian support. " Supported not a law, and Russian Boris. If instead Khasbulatov was a Russian, possibly all turned otherwise. Andrei Dunayev, Minister of Internal Affairs interrogated thousand troops, we received the following evidence: no peace talks in the time interval between events 3 and 4 October was not conducted - were ordered to attack immediately .. . The pause between the third happened and what occurred on October 4 was not warned of people who have remained in the "White house", the beginning of bombardment and assault. Consequently, the events on October 4 should be qualified as a crime committed on the soil of vengeance in a manner dangerous to the lives of many, from base motives. Alex Kazannik, Attorney General I gave the command to the 119-th regiment storm. They opened the door, there is shooting. Well, we put a lot of these ... No they are not considered easy. A lot. Pavel Grachev, Minister of Defence in the courtroom thrashed direct fire, and beat high explosive shells, not blanks, according to today. From blanks building will not burn. There were rivers of blood, guts on the wall, cut off the head. I saw it all. Alexander Rutskoi Vice-President As with any job, I ran through the building, I have a tremendous amount of blood, corpses, broken bodies. Cut off the hands, head. Projectile falls: Part of man here, some there ... When it was daylight, I started slowly down the street. When I opened the door, I almost fainted. The whole yard was littered with corpses, not very often, such as in a checkerboard pattern. The bodies of all in some unusual positions: one sits on one side, one hand raised, one leg, and all the blue and yellow. I think that is unusual in this picture? And they are all naked, all naked. Vyacheslav KOTELNIKOV, the Supreme Council

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This picture confirms the "Ostankino" mowed pulёmetov from everyone, including journalists with cameras

Boyne managed from the US Embassy
The head of the investigation group on initiated criminal cases the Prosecutor General - the seizure of the Moscow mayor's office and try to capture the television center "Ostankino" was Leonid Proshkina. He kept silent for 20 years and did not give any interviews on the results of the investigation, many of which still lies secrecy. "Express Gazeta" was the first and still the only publication which has been achieved by Proshkina sensational details.
- It should be borne in mind that the 126 dead and 384 wounded from the official list - entirely on the conscience of the supporters of then-President Boris Yeltsin , - sighs Proshkin. - The investigation proved that no man killed a weapon of defense, "White House." - Defenders of the "White House" say that this slaughter ran from the US Embassy. - Well, I say the same. But the evidence I have. As well as the fact that the Israeli soldiers were "Betar" among snipers. We talked about the "white pantyhose" - snipers, lighted in Chechnya. But we have not admitted to it. The operation for the protection of "Ostankino" and the "rebels" led by a police general Paul Holubec . But he was only a deputy of the HR and in combat - complete stump .. When a shot from the television station hooked one of the guards Makashova immediately at the break in place of doors ASK-3 there was a powerful explosion. Shrapnel wounded standing nearby. At the same time, on the first floor of the building also exploded. He was accepted for a shot from a grenade launcher RPG-7V1, which was at the attackers. Yeltsin wrote in his book that it was after that fatal shot from a grenade launcher defenders "Ostankino" were forced to open fire on the attackers.
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Leonid Proshkina

A shot from a grenade launcher was not! We have proved it, carried out experiments on the range it division. Dzerzhinsky, with the participation of experts from the Ministry of Interior. The RPG-7V1 has a huge capacity to burn and hit half-meter concrete wall and the building of ASA-3 was no such damage. What started then - just do not fit in the head. As people thrashed dense fire. Makashovtsy retreated once were random people - of those who joined the crowd of people planted provocateurs to public transport, and journalists. There footage: APC goes around and shoots. - Who robbed the House of Soviets after the fire? - Investigation Team gave an estimate of the damage in excess of 367 million rubles.! Plundered the Ministry of Defense and Ministry of Interior forces. Turns everything upside down, took out all cleaned - crockery, paintings, office equipment, television sets. The same picture was in the Town Hall, the former SEVe, which housed a lot of commercial structures. The building of the Leningrad controlled riot. When the soldiers left, investigators going into the building, they saw that all the rooms opened. For wooden doors - traces of OMON boots cracked safes. But most importantly - looted nearly a thousand barrels of weapons. For all these facts, we prosecute. The results did not like Yeltsin. All the matter closed. No one brought to justice.



Provocations in the White House arranged KGB officers
Vice-President of the Association of Political Experts and Consultants, Executive Secretary of Izborsk Club Alexander NAGORNO left the "White House" one of the last. Later, he repeatedly tried to analyze the events of the day and always came to the conclusion that nothing accidental was not there. Every step and forwards and defenders of the parliament led by some of the rooms.
- Militants "Russian National Unity" led by Barkashov appeared in the "White House" on the fifth day of the siege. And almost all gone in the morning on Monday, 4 October - says Alexander Nagorny . - They initially did not want to let into the building. And it is not allowed, if not who had a tremendous influence on the leaders of the "coup" General Philip Bobkov - former first deputy chairman of the KGB of the USSR, and at that time the head of the analytical department of the holding JSC "Group" MOST "subordinate Vladimir Gusinsky. July 20, he settled in spetskomnate on the fifth floor in the database. And gone out on 4 October when the events took place on the script, and they are no longer needed to adjust.

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Chekist BOBKOV Philippe worked for the oligarchs. Photo: scienceport.ru

Barkashov and his "Knights of the Swastika" were needed in the "White House" to prevail upon Bill Clinton . That twice a conversation with Moscow demanded that the assault did not begin, or - no support. And he laid on the table a photo of people with a swastika: ah, you do not allow the house to shoot at Presnya ?! Then come to power these and there will be riots!
By the way, no one today can not show a written order to open fire on the database.
At half past five in the morning on Monday from the database escaped Valery Krasnov , head of the secretariat Rutskoi , a career KGB officer, throughout the siege slips boss does not the text of speeches that wrote to councilors. It was his action explains many absurdities conduct general when Rutskoi three performed with the "hood" "White House" and three read as it is written Krasnov text calls to storm "Ostankino"!
October 6 Summary of incidents, lying on the boss MIA tables Viktor Erin and commander of the internal troops Anatoly Kulikov , reported: "... in the morning on October 5 the building of ITAR-TASS news agency, an armed attack a group of persons in military uniform. Rota OMON air transport caused by the rescue guard, stabbed by a group of attackers. The commander of the attack killed a lieutenant colonel. Taken prisoner injured first lieutenant reported that a member of the special unit, based on the General Staff. And at 10 pm they had received an order to carry out the firing of a number of facilities in Moscow in order to destabilize the political situation ... "
The bodies were taken by truck
This image is from the series "Brigada" - the only feature film, where even a glimpse, but the results showed Yeltsin rebellion. This image is from the series, we have added real memories participant in the events, the truck driver of a collective farm near Moscow ":" ... At about 9 pm in my car put 12 of the rabble with shovels and crowbars. They drove to the stadium "Krasnaya Presnya" and about the walls they started to take away the dead. There were many, and all of the young. In the back with flashlights searched killed and stripped.


Asked the captain, my neighbor in the cockpit: "They saw how much?" - Came the answer "61" .After the machine is taken out the bodies of the city, took the second flight. As soon as we are in 1 hour 30 minutes arrived at the "White House", or rather, to an adjacent house with a large arch, the car drove into the yard and in the square yard began to collect dead people. Most of them were from the waist up naked, especially in the hallways ... When the body said that picked up 42 corpses, including 6 children, 13 women and 23 men, the car moved along the ring road. "
After that, the driver of the flight, he said, threw truck and fled.

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Of course we may not have heard of this bloodbath in the West, no need to tarnish this newly minted 'democracy' and Washington's great victory with 'details'....

So, citizens were handed 'shares' in the commonly held means of production but they felt them worthless....and I find it very hard to believe that Israeli personel were involved though i guess they could be CIA sub-contractors.
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blindpig
08-02-2016, 11:03 AM
Posted here because Vladimir posted to his blog. This does answer the question of how an oligarchy pops up almost as out of thin air. Whether it is accurate is another story.


USSR sold for just $ 12 billion in 1985?
July 27, 2016

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The collapse of the Soviet Union itself began in 1985 , but the main blow fell on 1987, when the KGB division on the order of Gorbachev, abusing his official powers, became engaged in not providing the USSR State Security, and the introduction of the dollar in economic activity and "entering the market" in cooperation with the US leadership, Britain, France and Germany.

During this period the basis for the development of the political process in the country, Gorbachev, on the one hand, with the aim of treason their homeland proclaims the slogan of "perestroika", the development of publicity, openness, formation of a multiparty system, and on the other - creates, allegedly to preserve capital, secret commercial structures "invisible" party of the economy, to bring capital to the West , and their accumulation in the personal accounts trusted him personally party members.

Gorbachev largely in new poses the problem of material support the party of life, the creation of stable sources of funding, both in the Soviet and foreign currency, instead of strengthening the Soviet ruble is betting on the US dollar and the material foundations of the party, to the international Communist Party ties, as well as on the task of "assisting foreign communist parties."

The purpose of Gorbachev, under the influence of US leaders, Britain, Germany, other countries and agents of influence, state treason and destruction of a powerful state, personal enrichment, the enrichment of colleagues and friends in the West at the expense of the people of the USSR, with the ultimate goal - the elimination of the Soviet Union as a sovereign state and ensure supply of raw materials to the West at the expense of Russia's wealth.

To carry out this criminal plan for the implementation of high treason by the collapse of the USSR, Gorbachev, abusing his official position and exceeding power as head of state and party, creates and forms to implement their ideas criminal clan - . Organized criminal Gorbachev consistently, since 1985, the adoption of various party and the Soviet government decisions to the detriment of the interests of the Soviet people to create a structure of the "shadow" economy of the commercial party, as in the USSR and abroad.

Exercise their criminal intentions, Gorbachev under the guise of "new thinking" quotes the following slogans: "The parties need to come together from all over the country in the market", "You have to learn to trade", "The main thing - to start, and the process will go." To form the composition of the organized criminal group and perform their tasks Gorbachev personally determines the list of permitted them proxies for the job.

This shadow work on personal enrichment Gorbachev creates a special group. This group allowed a very narrow circle of persons from among members of the CC, CA Central Committee, the KGB leadership, the Ministry of Finance and the Central Bank, as follows: Iwashko, Demintcev, Chenin, Falin, Dzasokhov, Lucinschi, Manaenkov, Veselkov, Kruchina, Kryuchkov, Gerashchenko, Pavlov, Orlov, and others.

The participants Gorbachev set a target of a criminal association created them:

P e r e in on - a prey and a secret export abroad illegally extracted natural resources of the country.

At t o r a e - theft of mined gold, silver, platinum, diamonds and the plundering zolotoalmaznyh and diamond reserves of the country and its export to the West.

T r e t s e - theft of foreign exchange reserves of the state and their transfer to their accounts in Western banks.

W e t e r in t on e - printing ruble mass and clandestine export it abroad to be converted into the currency and placing it on the personal accounts in Western banks.

I n t a e - the theft of 360 billion Soviet rubles - savings of the population and the pensioners of the USSR, lying in the savings banks.

W e s t a e - transfer of the country's budget funds in banks caused by a criminal, commercial structures, both in the USSR and abroad.

With e d s e a m - helping their kinsmen and friends abroad all over the world at the expense of the Soviet state.

In about a s m a e - non-payment of taxes to the state of the activity of hundreds of publishers and thousands of other structures, accountable only to the party.

D e t a i in e - state secret use of budget money for the needs of the CPSU and the world communist movement.

D e c i t a e - transfer to the personal accounts of the Communist Party of wealth in the form of currency and precious metals movable and immovable property within the country and abroad.

To perform these tasks at the initial stage of their criminal activities Gorbachev under the influence of the US President Reigate, Prime Minister of England, Margaret Thatcher, an agent of influence and billionaire Robert Maxwell, newspaper owner, publisher and information centers, which Gorbachev was on friendly terms, creates a top secret directive, which is sent to the leaders of parties in the republics, territories and regions, which indicates the need to urgently:

"To carry out an inventory of the property of the party in terms of determining the possibilities of its use for commercial purposes; simultaneously "take stock" all parties received from partner business proposals and to consult with relevant parties. Proceed to the formation of the network is not large, flexible self-supporting existing economic organizations on the basis of an existing property of the party in the form of joint ventures, joint stock companies with the participation of firms 'friends' parties and affiliate ... ".

At that time companies so-called "friends" that have been created in the West by order of Gorbachev, "Vnesheconombank USSR" were transferred from welfare large cash infusion. Cash gratuitously transferred to foreign companies in millions of convertible rubles, including:

The IT - "Commerce" (Portugal) - 4.4 "Metalkim" (Portugal) - 3.3 "Numerika" (Portugal) - 0.6, "Land-of-Folk" (Denmark) - 0.3 , OPF (France) - 0.3 "Plambak" (Germany) - 0.1 "Interneshenel Trayding" (Japan) - 0.5, OPF (France) - 0.4, "Teti Editore", "Editore Rieniti "" Amilcar Pizza "," Xylon "(Italy) - 1.9," Globus "(Austria) - 2.2," Pergamon Press "(England) - 0.5" Drukhauz Norden "," Dusty " "Loher", "Bartsch Interneshenel" (Germany) - 0.4 "Coop" (Switzerland) - 0.1, "Avante" (Portugal) - 0.2, "Land-of-Folk" (Denmark) - 0 3, "Vig-trick" (Sweden) - 0.1, "People's Daily World" (USA) - 0.1, "Unita" (Italy) - 0.05, "Morning Star" (England) - 0, 1, "Rizospastis" (Greece) - 0.1, "Kraus" (Austria) - 24.6 "Papandopulos" (Greece) - 3.7, "Malaga" (Greece) - 2.0 "Fidas" ( Greece) - I, 5 ... totaling over 60 million USD.

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When a member of the criminal community - managing director of the Central Committee of the CPSU Kruchina NE I reported to Gorbachev that sending these funds abroad to the above organizations can not afford to party funds, then Gorbachev, abusing his official position, exceeding the governmental authority to give orders to the chairman of the State Bank of the USSR Gerashchenko about taking the money from the State Bank of the USSR, which were listed originally in "Vnesheconombank", and from there transferred to the accounts of the above companies 'friends'.

The USSR was sold for only $ 12 billion in 1985?

Schmidt, as he put it himself, bought the Soviet Union just 12 billion. Dollars. USA , being an accomplice in the theft of the money supply of Russian money to international criminal community in the face of Gorbachev, Pavlova, Gerashchenko and Orlova that this transaction led to a complete collapse and chaos.
To export the above sums involved personally former Minister of Finance of the USSR V. Pavlov and V.Orlov. So, personally Pavlov at the end of 1990, arrived in Switzerland incognito and made the trip with a fake passport. At the same time he had no contact with the Soviet embassy in Berne, nor with the Swiss authorities. In Zurich, held secret meetings Pavlova with Schmidt and heads of Swiss, German, French and British banks, and at the end of January 1991 was the new Minister of Finance V.Orlov also traveled to Switzerland with false documents, where he had meetings and discussions with representatives of the financial community the United States and Europe. Besides the issue of the translation arrangements on the money West Orlov said that Gorbachev and his Government would like to sell a significant amount of gold, diamonds and platinum, but is afraid that due to information leakage prices could fall in the world market.
After these visits, Pavlov and Orlov in May and in July 1991, sales have increased dramatically our rubles abroad - up to 140 billion rubles. On the eve of the August 1991 coup - as stated above - has been bailed for 280 billion rubles to 12 billion dollars, which are then in October-November 1991, after the Emergency Committee were also taken out of the country.

The USSR was sold for only $ 12 billion in 1985?

The main assets that were stolen by Gorbachev and established them a criminal during his reign, accumulated, and then taken out of the country mainly through the following funds and banks:

- Funds: Fund Gladyshev (head Gladyshev VI), MS Foundation Gorbachev (Mikhail Gorbachev), the Fund RM Gorbachev (Gorbachev RM), Foundation "Social protection of youth Kononevicha (FZZM)" (Kononevich EI) Fund "Planeta" (Azharmachev UV), Interregional public charitable foundation "Man - Earth - Universe" , later renamed the non-profit organization Charity Fund "Man - Earth - Universe" (Pospelov SI), Non-Profit Partnership "The International Fund Formation Energatsionnyh" Manysheva-Egorova-Kononevicha "streams (head Egorova EV), Interregional Public Civil service veterans Social support Fund, "Fund" Referent "(Mazaev VG), the Fund" Anastasia Romanova, "Depositary" Russia "Fund" Princely Council Russi "(Duminika VA), Charity" Pokoyanie "foundation , Soviet peace Fund (Karpov), International consortium "Society - children" (the head of both - Zagrebel'nyi MN), Foundation for Promotion of scientific, technical and cultural programs "Nick" (Sergeyev VM), philanthropic foundations "In the name of St. John the Baptist "(Morozov AV), International Cooperative Holding" Golden Section "(Krantz SV), International Cooperative Holding" Golden axis "(Kudryavtsev), Fund" Presidential Programme "(N. Malyshev G.), territorial-branch financial and energy TOFES Union (Latysheva EB), the International Coordinating Council of the Supreme interaction with economic and financial structures (Avdeyev, Ilchenko NV), International charity fund of assistance to Professor Gerasimov AA (Nekrasov SN), the International Consumer Society "Pass Ahis" (Polonsky YV), International Consortium "Infomir" (lans OA), Russian Foundation for Assistance to Refugees "Compatriots" (Demidov MA) Fund "Referend", etc .;
- Companies and firms: ZAOT "Tissa" (Vasechko AA), ASER "Tan" renamed Ltd SIR "Tan" really manage Yusupov, then Petrenko), JSC "Mining Company Daurskaya +" (EI Kononevich .), CJSC "Daurskaya mining company" (Frolov VA), CJSC "Katri" (Kagalin VA), CJSC "Epikon", LLC "Gemont" (Kulinich SV), JSC "BINITEK" (Shmakov AV), CJSC "Onyx" (P. Grachev), CJSC "Simak" (Volsky), the International financial holding "New Era", CJSC information agency "Eurasia" (Lantseva VA), 6 boarding Dasha veterans -Masha Belyaevo-Konkovo ​​(M.S.sam Gorbachev was the director of the boarding school, through the accounts which the West leaving billions of dollars), LLC "Dzhobrus" Holding LTD, Moscow municipal Association (Hatimskaya MA), CJSC "Seabeco "(B. Birstein), OOO" Diamond - Tang ", LLC" Soft-Trade "Ltd," Rubicon ", CJSC" Bink ", Joint-Stock Company" Aster ", CJSC" Sae-Aster, PKZ ".Yauza" (Winds E n.) JSC "Fringe", JSC "Tatnef-Kraton" Tatneft-HH Company ", OAO" Suvar ", LLC" Kadin Center ", LLC" Founder Co., Ltd. ", JSC" Phoenix "MP" Zodiac " CJSC "Zodiac-K", LLC "Zodiac inves" company "Volga-Dnepr" (Isaykin A.), CJSC "Uraltransinvest", LLC "Ural-Trade", and many others.
- Foreign companies; New Technology Groap, Inc Voshington, President O.Two-Feathers; New Technology Finances Ltd company in Ireland, presidential V / Pres-Mahon Sllatteru; Company Svents Pacifik, RM-Petroleum SA SSA GLOBUAL Ltd. LDC Trading @ Consulting SNC Roma Italy (Italy), the company "Met korporation LTD", "Marty Foynens», MG CAPITAL INVESTMENTS FASTERN.INC (England) and many others.
- Banks; "MosnarBank", "BSEN-Eurobank" in London, «Moscow Narodny Bank Limited» in France, «BCEN Eurobank», «Bangue Commerciale pour I» Bank, «Europe du Nord» - subsidiary bank of Bank of Russia, "ABM-AMRO" JSC "AKB Evrofinans", "MosnarBank", Sberbank, "VTB", "VIB-24", "Tveruniversalbank" IIB "Alfa-Bank", "WHISTLE Trust Bank CORPORATION" in Nauru, "Kreditbank" (Belgium) - now "KBC" bank, "Bank of America", "Commerzbank" in Franfurt, Germany, «Panacea Bank And Trust Inc» -. Canada, «Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce» -Toronto, Canada, "Haidolsbank" - Austria, "Mezhekonomsberbank" Bank "Flora-Moscow", "Ugra" Bank "JSCB Aerokosmosbank", "Invessberbank" Bank "Bank House", JSC "Inkasbank" St. Petereburg, CB "Stroyinvest", JSC "Inkasbank" "Zhilsotsbank" Bank "ICB" Bank "Elimbank", "KREDOBANK", "Tokobank", "Ost-West", "East-West", "Kinster Bank», «DEUTSCHE BANK AG FRANKEFURT», «DG. DOUTSCHE GENOSSENSCHAFTSBANK FRANKFURT »,« UNION BANK OF SWITZERLAND ZUERICH, TNE CYPIUS POPULAR BANK LTD NICOSIA CYPRUS »,« Standart Bank London »,« ING (UK) Capital Ltd. London "," Westmerchant Capital Markets London "," Bank Handlovy W Warszawie SA London Branch "," ING Bank NV London ",« Standart Bank London Ltd "," SBV Finanze FG Zurich "," Boatmens National BK of St.Louis " "Natsvestminsterbank" (Switzerland); "Barclays' (Belgium); "Tsentrohandelsbank" (Austria); "Bank of America" ​​(USA); "The Bank of New York" (USA); "Cheyzmanhettenbank" (USA), «Doutsche Bank», «Drezden Bank» in Germany and others, all 74 West Bank, where Russian assets and liabilities are kept. Gold Tsarist Russia and the Soviet Union is in Fort Knox United States and England.

http://sevstory.ru/2016/07/sssr-prodali-vsego-za-12-milliardov-dollarov-v-1985-godu.html

blindpig
08-11-2016, 09:12 AM
Vlasov - is an important issue
colonelcassad
August 10, 18:32

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In the "Yeltsin-center" ready to rehabilitate "Vlasov": agency staff reported a willingness to consider a request to perpetuate the memory of those who fought against the Soviet power by force of arms, according to On the eve correspondent.
Deputy Director for Science Center Nikita Sokolov said at a press conference that it was necessary "to go beyond the narrow understanding of the repressed." We need to expand it. He said that an important social problem is the memory of a group of persons who have not been rehabilitated and created real combat troops to confront the Soviet regime, among them "Vlasov". Sokolov welcome the initiative to preserve the memory "Vlasov." "If we receive such a request (on the establishment of a memorial plaque in memory of the people who fought against the Soviet Union with arms), then we will begin a public debate on this matter," - he said . Sokolov he said that "Vlasov" - an important issue that "should be addressed." Recall, "Vlasov" - followers of General Vlasov, who fought as he was during the Great Patriotic war on the side of the Third Reich against the Soviet Union. http: / /www.nakanune.ru/news/2016/8/10/22 444063 / # sthash.ZNIBoAIb.dpuf - zinc

PS. One to one as in Ukraine are expanding Overton window. In this regard, the Russian neovlasovtsy just spilled a copy of Ukrainian Bandera. Aims and objectives of apparently the same.

And the issue with the Vlasov, has long been resolved and the subject.

http://generalvlasov.ru/photos/original/vlasov-kazn.jpg

But as we see, the modern admirers of the Nazi litter occupying including public office, not appeased. This, too, has a striking resemblance to the Ukraine, where the rehabilitation of Bandera and Shukhevych would have been impossible without the help of the various government agencies that helped the rehabilitation of Ukrainian collaborators and Ukrainian SS men that in logic merzotnyh assholes of the "Yeltsin-center", too, is "fighting with arms in their hands."

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That way, too, two wrestlers with the Soviet Union. Whether he will start if the "Yeltsin-Center" discussion, if the request will go in and out "beyond a narrow understanding"? Consider whether it is now fashionable issue of the plaque?

The UPD: Petition to the IC with the requirement to prohibit by law on the territory of the Russian Federation attempts to perpetuate the persons who fought on the side of Nazi Germany https://www.roi.ru/28237/

http://colonelcassad.livejournal.com/2892340.html

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And sometimes Vladimir Suchan does not seem crazy at all.

Dhalgren
08-11-2016, 09:52 AM
And sometimes Vladimir Suchan does not seem crazy at all.

He seems to inhabit that rare space where the memory is clear and unaffected, but despair of current situations clouds the reason.

blindpig
03-03-2017, 10:24 AM
Stalin's Death, Death of Communism, British Triumph and Americanization of Communism: Snapshot of History Which Passed Much Unknown to Its Contemporaries and the Meaning of Which Emerged Only Several Decades After: Moscow in the Camera of Henri Cartier Bresson

Moscow, 1954--in the midst of the Trotskyist and Menshevik coup by Khrushchev and his hollow men against the background of one of the new Babylonian Towers, commonly known as "Seven Sisters," based on early American high-rise models from New York, Chicago and Cleveland.

Of course, the fact of Stalin's murder (poisoning) by Khruschev and his conspirators in 1953 had been long covered up together with the political and even civilizational and historical meaning of this act. This meaning itself, however, took years and even decades to unfold and to turn and ultimately sink the mighty ship or Titanic of the system and much of the former Russia.

As Nikolai Starikov, who is at his best whenever he can cite British intelligence archives and sensitive information, pointed out Winston Churchill was invested as a Knight of the Garter (becoming Sir Winston Churchill, KG) just two weeks after Stalin's death. According to Starikov, Churchill (and hence British intelligence) were the true masterminders of this coup de grace:

Starikov: "Khruschev is a man who saved the US":



http://youtu.be/ydUIGk_91C0

There is thus an interesting "Americanization" of communism and Russia at a glance--from Trotsky and his US ties (later morphing into neo-cons), through Lenin's infatuation with the Taylor management and production methods to Stalin's Babylonian/neo-ghotic/US skyscraping architecture down to Russian oligarchs living their Miami Vice dreams. However, as you can see from the other pictures, it was also time when both education and ideology were still taken seriously.

Needless to say, Nabokov's Lolita--a story of a Russian emigrant's pedophile fatal infatuation with an American beauty is also an important moment in the "Americanization" of the Russian gene and fate.

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Compare one of the Moscow Sisters above with her US models/originals/fathers/brothers:

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But the true and mightiest Babylonian Tower was supposed to be the building of the Supreme Soviet--the Palace of the Soviets that was to be built
on the site of the demolished Cathedral of Christ the Saviour. The architectural contest for the Palace of the Soviets (1931–1933) was won by Boris Iofan's neoclassical concept, subsequently revised by Iofan, Vladimir Shchuko and Vladimir Gelfreikh into a skyscraper. If built, it would have become the world's tallest structure of its time. Construction started in 1937, and was terminated by the German invasion in 1941. In 1941–1942, its steel frame was disassembled for use in fortifications and bridges. Construction was never resumed. In 1958, the foundations of the Palace were converted into what would become the world's largest open-air swimming pool, the Moskva Pool. ... Sergey Kirov, speaking at the Congress, proposed building a congress palace "on the sites of palaces once owned by bankers, landlords, and tsars". Very soon, Kirov said, existing halls would be too small to fit the delegates from new republics of the Union. The palace "will be just another push for the European proletariat, still dormant...to realize that we came for good and forever, that the ideas...

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http://vladimirsuchan.blogspot.com/2017/03/stalins-death-death-of-communism.html

Other images at link.

As appealing as it would be to simply lay the blame on Mensheviks, Trotsky and Khrushchev that is not materialism. Even if that all were true nothing like what has happened could have happened but for a lack of vigilance by Party and People. How that came to happen is the biggest piece of the puzzle.