Screaming Scooter Libby Carried Out of Courtroom
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WASHINGTON (AP) — Screaming and crying, Irve “Scooter” Libby was escorted out of a courtroom and back to jail Friday after a judge ruled that he must serve out his entire 30-month sentence behind bars rather than in his home.

“It’s not right!” shouted the weeping Libby, who was convicted of four felonies in a reckless spy-outing case. “Mom!” he called out to Dick Cheney in the audience.

Libby, who was brought to court in handcuffs in a sheriff’s car, came into the courtroom disheveled and weeping, hair askew, sans makeup, wearing a gray fuzzy sweat shirt over slacks.

He cried throughout the hearing, his body shook constantly and he dabbed at his eyes. Several times he turned to James Carville and Mary Matalin, seated behind him in the courtroom, and mouthed, “I love you.”

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“Vice President Cheney has determined that because of his medical situation, this (jail) is a dangerous place for him,” Wells said. “The court’s role here is to let the Vice President run the jail,” he said.

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I didn't know that about Libby and Carville/Matalin. They're good friends.

I'm just wondering why this guy gets 30 months only? I don't care about the excuse that's generated by the court.
They could lock him up indefinitely if they wanted but no way. He walks in less than 30 that's for sure.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v474/autorank/wonkette_logo.gif

I didn't know that about Libby and Carville/Matalin. They're good friends.

I'm just wondering why this guy gets 30 months only? I don't care about the excuse that's generated by the court.
They could lock him up indefinitely if they wanted but no way. He walks in less than 30 that's for sure.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v474/autorank/wonkette_logo.gif

Man, you are a total opportunist ;)

On Washington Week they were wondering why he got such a severe sentence!

I didn't know that about Libby and Carville/Matalin. They're good friends.

I'm just wondering why this guy gets 30 months only? I don't care about the excuse that's generated by the court.
They could lock him up indefinitely if they wanted but no way. He walks in less than 30 that's for sure.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v474/autorank/wonkette_logo.gif

Man, you are a total opportunist ;)

On Washington Week they were wondering why he got such a severe sentence!

Opportunist? I don't see any opportunity here.

First of all, he needs to take his sentence like a criminal, not a pansy. There's a code, you know.

Real criminals don't cry. Didn't he read up on that. He's quite literate I hear, in an obscure sort of way.
He gets a sentence a real criminal would envy and cries. Bad form.

As for the sentence and the idiots who think helping to out someone who supposedly was working on the rogue
nuclear weapons market, I'd like to seem him get the maximum. This is supposed to be a tough judge and what
do we get, 30 months. Bogus justice.

When Alaric and the Visigoths finally took Rome in 410 A.D., more than half the city turned out to greet them as liberators. It is also pertinent that Alaric paid off some Romans to open the Salarian Gate. That is how Rome, "fell". By that point, the barbarians were "civilized" and the civilized were "barbarians".

A side point is that the right-wing is currently throwing around the analogy above against illegal immigration. As usual, they miss the point. I guess none of them read Satyricon.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bb/SatyriconPoster.png

When Alaric and the Visigoths finally took Rome in 410 A.D., more than half the city turned out to greet them as liberators. It is also pertinent that Alaric paid off some Romans to open the Salarian Gate. That is how Rome, "fell". By that point, the barbarians were "civilized" and the civilized were "barbarians".

A side point is that the right-wing is currently throwing around the analogy above against illegal immigration. As ususal, they miss the point. I guess none of them read Satyricon.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bb/SatyriconPoster.png

Speaking of Rome, do you know of any analysis of the ruling class's hard-on for all things Roman, particularly in these here United States? So much fodder there, architecture, governmental organization, symbolism, rigged voting, what else? Think they imagine themselves Patricians of the Late Republic? The parallel of Roman expansionism and Capital's requirement of growth strikes me, the Empire began it's decline when it stopped expanding.(allowing time for the last great influx of war slaves from Trajan's wars to die out)

That was one bizarre movie, wish I could remember it better.

Speaking of Rome, do you know of any analysis of the ruling class's hard-on for all things Roman, particularly in these here United States? So much fodder there, architecture, governmental organization, symbolism, rigged voting, what else? Think they imagine themselves Patricians of the Late Republic? The parallel of Roman expansionism and Capital's requirement of growth strikes me, the Empire began it's decline when it stopped expanding.(allowing time for the last great influx of war slaves from Trajan's wars to die out)

That was one bizarre movie, wish I could remember it better.

It was the other way around. The democratic revolutions in general, and the French Revolution in particular invoked the imagery of the classical era (Greek and Roman), particularly around republican themes. It still hangs on to this day. Similarly, the Paris Commune and the Russian Revolution invoked themes from the French Revolution. When history is treading new ground, it has no choice but to look backward for images.

http://freenet.buffalo.edu/bah/f/fstyles/emp/louvre/david_ver.jpg
Painting of Madame Raymond by Jacques-Louis David... Note the "toga", the chair and the pose.

http://www.wga.hu/detail/d/david_j/4/401david.jpg
Painting of Madame Récamier from 1800. Same artist; same story.

http://jonathanscorner.com/writing/icons/jacques_louis_david_the_oaths_of_the_horatii.gif
Oath of the Horatii, also by David... Roman stories brought forward to reflect 1789 themes.

Neoclassicism.
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I didn't know that about Libby and Carville/Matalin. They're good friends.

I'm just wondering why this guy gets 30 months only? I don't care about the excuse that's generated by the court.
They could lock him up indefinitely if they wanted but no way. He walks in less than 30 that's for sure.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v474/autorank/wonkette_logo.gif

Man, you are a total opportunist ;)

On Washington Week they were wondering why he got such a severe sentence!

Opportunist? I don't see any opportunity here.

First of all, he needs to take his sentence like a criminal, not a pansy. There's a code, you know.

Real criminals don't cry. Didn't he read up on that. He's quite literate I hear, in an obscure sort of way.
He gets a sentence a real criminal would envy and cries. Bad form.

As for the sentence and the idiots who think helping to out someone who supposedly was working on the rogue
nuclear weapons market, I'd like to seem him get the maximum. This is supposed to be a tough judge and what
do we get, 30 months. Bogus justice.

I read the first sentence of your reply and was about to make a quick follow-up..good thing I read the rest first lol :)

Speaking of Rome, do you know of any analysis of the ruling class's hard-on for all things Roman, particularly in these here United States? So much fodder there, architecture, governmental organization, symbolism, rigged voting, what else? Think they imagine themselves Patricians of the Late Republic? The parallel of Roman expansionism and Capital's requirement of growth strikes me, the Empire began it's decline when it stopped expanding.(allowing time for the last great influx of war slaves from Trajan's wars to die out)

That was one bizarre movie, wish I could remember it better.

It was the other way around. The democratic revolutions in general, and the French Revolution in particular invoked the imagery of the classical era (Greek and Roman), particularly around republican themes. It still hangs on to this day. Similarly, the Paris Commune and the Russian Revolution invoked themes from the French Revolution. When history is treading new ground, it has no choice but to look backward for images.

http://freenet.buffalo.edu/bah/f/fstyles/emp/louvre/david_ver.jpg
Painting of Madame Raymond by Jacques-Louis David... Note the "toga", the chair and the pose.

http://www.wga.hu/detail/d/david_j/4/401david.jpg
Painting of Madame Récamier from 1800. Same artist; same story.

http://jonathanscorner.com/writing/icons/jacques_louis_david_the_oaths_of_the_horatii.gif
Oath of the Horatii, also by David... Roman stories brought forward to reflect 1789 themes.

Neoclassicism.
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Well and good, let's say that intellectuals from the Renniscance on promoted the glories of the Ancients. To be sure, much progressive thought was germinated on the soil of an idealised understanding of ancient rights and liberties. And I su[ppose one might give the benefit of the doubt to the Founding Father crowd, that in their public architerture, etc & soforth that they were copping on those better features of those old ones. Still, there's an awful lot of the negative, southern planters with a good education surely saw themselves as legitamised by the practices of the classical past, the distrust of the"mob", the intense emphasis on family as a vehicle of social, economic and political aggrandizement. I'm not talking tin foil, but rather perhaps something more mundane like the emphasis on the "Classics" in the education of the upper class. Could the that bad, hierarchial systems behave in the same fashion, maybe they have to. Or maybe a selective knowledge of history can excuse anything.

Well and good, let's say that intellectuals from the Renniscance on promoted the glories of the Ancients. To be sure, much progressive thought was germinated on the soil of an idealised understanding of ancient rights and liberties. And I su[ppose one might give the benefit of the doubt to the Founding Father crowd, that in their public architerture, etc & soforth that they were copping on those better features of those old ones. Still, there's an awful lot of the negative, southern planters with a good education surely saw themselves as legitamised by the practices of the classical past, the distrust of the"mob", the intense emphasis on family as a vehicle of social, economic and political aggrandizement. I'm not talking tin foil, but rather perhaps something more mundane like the emphasis on the "Classics" in the education of the upper class. Could the that bad, hierarchial systems behave in the same fashion, maybe they have to. Or maybe a selective knowledge of history can excuse anything.

Don't get me wrong... There is a a similar but inverted fascination with the imperial side of Rome in reactionary circles. You can also see the togas (and wreaths, heroic architecture, etc.) come out among the fascists (and to a lesser extent among liberals and conservatives). There is a good deal of art history focused on both politics. Consider Hitler's favorite toy, the model for the new Berlin designed by Speer... Nero would have loved it:

http://www.nyc-architecture.com/ARCH/ger-Welthauptstadt_Germania.jpg

Just reeks of power, permanence, and stability, don't it? Ironically, a lot of the same concepts if not the same forms, went into the World Trade Center, and immediately made it a target. The history of Rockefeller's involvement with that building and the imagery that was intended from the first is eye-opening. The interior was done in royal purple... intentionally.

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Well and good, let's say that intellectuals from the Renniscance on promoted the glories of the Ancients. To be sure, much progressive thought was germinated on the soil of an idealised understanding of ancient rights and liberties. And I su[ppose one might give the benefit of the doubt to the Founding Father crowd, that in their public architerture, etc & soforth that they were copping on those better features of those old ones. Still, there's an awful lot of the negative, southern planters with a good education surely saw themselves as legitamised by the practices of the classical past, the distrust of the"mob", the intense emphasis on family as a vehicle of social, economic and political aggrandizement. I'm not talking tin foil, but rather perhaps something more mundane like the emphasis on the "Classics" in the education of the upper class. Could the that bad, hierarchial systems behave in the same fashion, maybe they have to. Or maybe a selective knowledge of history can excuse anything.

Don't get me wrong... There is a a similar but inverted fascination with the imperial side of Rome in reactionary circles. You can also see the togas (and wreaths, heroic architecture, etc.) come out among the fascists (and to a lesser extent among liberals and conservatives). There is a good deal of art history focused on both politics. Consider Hitler's favorite toy, the model for the new Berlin designed by Speer... Nero would have loved it:

http://www.nyc-architecture.com/ARCH/ger-Welthauptstadt_Germania.jpg

Just reeks of power, permanence, and stability, don't it? Ironically, a lot of the same concepts if not the same forms, went into the World Trade Center, and immediately made it a target. The history of Rockefeller's involvement with that building and the imagery that was intended from the first is eye-opening. The interior was done in royal purple... intentionally.

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That model reminds me of models of ancient Mayan cities, is that a ball court to the left? All of a piece, I guess. Too bad that unlike the proles of that time we can't just walk away and tell the Man to go fuck himself, no place left to go. Nothing is easy.

What's this thing about wearing sheets anyway?

http://wiw.org/~corey/lj/belushi-sideways.jpg

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/matt_kane/images/AMERICA2.jpg

Some idiots are more dangerous than others.......

That model reminds me of models of ancient Mayan cities, is that a ball court to the left? All of a piece, I guess. Too bad that unlike the proles of that time we can't just walk away and tell the Man to go fuck himself, no place left to go. Nothing is easy.


There were lots of enclosed open areas. They were for shit like this:

http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/images/michaelwalford/2006/10/06/triumph_of_the_will_stadium_shot.jpg

http://www.lawtergenealogy.com/bin/histprof/images/hitler-nazi-rally.jpg

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When I first looked at the bottom picture in your post, I thought it as a graphic, to 'perfectly aligned.'

Hitler, despite all of this, was very concerned about his ability to maintain public support. He had an extensive network devoted to 'polling' of a sort in order to gauge the public sentiment before he invaded Poland. They were finding that he had some strong support but about 1/2 the people thought he was full of shit. Preemptive invasions of countries that you have no real beef with can certainly nail down popular opinion.

Are those form that "artiste" Leni Reifenstahl, who tried to rehabilitate her self a few years ago? Don't know why she's still walking around (or maybe she's not at this point).

When I first looked at the bottom picture in your post, I thought it as a graphic, to 'perfectly aligned.'

Hitler, despite all of this, was very concerned about his ability to maintain public support. He had an extensive network devoted to 'polling' of a sort in order to gauge the public sentiment before he invaded Poland. They were finding that he had some strong support but about 1/2 the people thought he was full of shit. Preemptive invasions of countries that you have no real beef with can certainly nail down popular opinion.

Are those form that "artiste" Leni Reifenstahl, who tried to rehabilitate her self a few years ago? Don't know why she's still walking around (or maybe she's not at this point).

It's just a photo but it is reminiscent of Triumph of the Will, isn't it? The film included scenes of the Nurenburg Party Rally, always with that perfect symmetry that she was known for.

Poor Leni...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/87/Leni-Riefenstahl_-_Profile.jpg

It wasn't her fault that her work was propoganda, let alone that Hitler liked her so much. She was just an artist...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/37/Riefenstahl_tdw.jpg

What do artists know of such things? She didn't even like politics...

And if certain people decide to see certain things in her films... well... you can hardly hold her responsible.

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDReviews21/a%20Leni%20Riefenstahl%20Triumph%20of%20the%20Will%20DVD/a%20Leni%20Riefenstahl%20Triumph%20of%20the%20Will%20DVD%203403.jpg

Why, she didn't even know that all those people were concentration camp inmates. She thought they were "extras".

And, so they were...
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