Asked about criticism that Romney is "too stiff," Ann Romney laughed and replied, "I guess we better unzip him and let the real Mitt Romney out because he is not!" (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/ann-romney-unzip-him-let-real-mitt-romney-170357495.html)

Wow, that Ann Romney have a whole nuther side to her, don't she - the little vixen...

I think I remember raising an eyebrow at that quote months ago

what does that quote even mean, is she bragging about her husband's sexual impotence?

what does that quote even mean, is she bragging about her husband's sexual impotence?

She probably never even thought of it that way, thought she was just being clever. The rich can utter any old thing that pops into their heads, whose gonna call them on it, the servants? That kind of wealth brings with it arrogance and intellectual laziness, they don't have to do anything, it is all done for them. I'll bet a quarter that there are proportionally more drunks and junkies among the ruling class than the working class.

I'll bet a quarter that there are proportionally more drunks and junkies among the ruling class than the working class.

Right, cause what difference would it make? The boss slurs her words? You have to clean up her syringes? Big deal...

Sometimes yer on dope and sometimes yer just a dope.....



“There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it. That that’s an entitlement. And the government should give it to them. And they will vote for this president no matter what. These are people who pay no income tax.”

Romney goes on to say;

“My job is not to worry about those people. (cmphasis added) I’ll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives.”

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2012/09/17/romney-fail-caught-on-video-revealing-extraordinary-contempt-for-47-percent-of-americans/

Such refreshing honesty, the hubris of these people in their present ascendancy is worthy of the Versailles crowd.

I’ll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives.

These "47%" "who pay no taxes" are working people , some of them working two or three jobs in this capitalist hell. This son of a bitch says they don't take responsibility for their own lives? And of course they pay taxes; every time they buy food, clothes, gas, medicine, they pay taxes. You know Obama thinks the same thing, he is just intelligent enough not to say it out loud. You got to kind of feel sorry for Mitt...he is a kind of simpleton...

It’s true that nearly 47 percent of households—46.4 percent, to be exact—paid no federal income tax for 2011. But who are these dependent victims, these entitled freeloaders?

They’re more likely to live in Republican states. According to the Tax Foundation, the states with the highest percentage of people who don’t file income tax returns, with the exception of Florida and New Mexico, are solidly red. Moreover, Ezra Klein calculated that Mr. Romney will likely receive “96 electoral votes from the ‘taker’ states” while Mr. Obama will receive 5. (29 are tossups.)

More than one-fifth are elderly. As David Frum put it, they’re “people who pay no income taxes because their income takes the form of Social Security.” Most of them pay a higher percentage of their income in taxes than Mr. Romney. Here’s Ezra Klein again: “Among the American who paid no federal income taxes in 2011, 61 percent paid payroll taxes—which means they have jobs and, when you account for both sides of the payroll tax, they paid 15.3 percent of their income in taxes, which is higher than the 13.9 percent than Romney paid.”

Some of them are simply too poor to pay taxes. The Tax Policy Center has found that 18.1 percent of households paid neither income tax nor payroll taxes in 2011. More than half of this group is elderly; over one-third are nonelderly with income under $20,000.

Some of them are wealthy, and manage to slip into Mr. Romney’s dependent-victim category due to exemptions and deductions. As ABC noted in June, “20,752 households that reported earning more than $200,000 in 2009 paid no federal income taxes. About 1,500 of those tax-free Americans were millionaires.”
http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/18/the-47-percent/

The thing is that these conservatives have a much better understanding of capitalist society than the delusional liberals. Bedrock liberalism, that of Locke and the rest, makes all economic activity solely a private matter and any imposed transference of wealth is indeed theft and tyranny, so their sages have said, it works for them, it must be true. So the disgust displayed by Mitt is honest, he really does believe that food stamps tyrannize the rich. Likewise, when these people say that earners of $200k-$250k are middle class they are again correct, these are the professionals, middle management and the like. The cold war propaganda which disappeared the term 'working class' while elevating any worker who did not live in poverty to the middle class seems to be fading as the current reality settles in. The paleo-liberals are also correct that their economy cannot afford unions, safety and environmental considerations, these things just gum up the works of a capitalist economy. Our lying modern day liberals, in their efforts to disguise the true nature of capitalist society from the masses incur the wrath of the conservatives for even suggesting that the individual owes anything to society, no slippery slope for those guys. They are right, they understand how our society works and that attempts at mitigation corrupt capitalism as they would have it. So the only recourse is to tear the whole damn thing and make something as we, the working class, would have it.

It’s true that nearly 47 percent of households—46.4 percent, to be exact—paid no federal income tax for 2011. But who are these dependent victims, these entitled freeloaders?

They’re more likely to live in Republican states. According to the Tax Foundation, the states with the highest percentage of people who don’t file income tax returns, with the exception of Florida and New Mexico, are solidly red. Moreover, Ezra Klein calculated that Mr. Romney will likely receive “96 electoral votes from the ‘taker’ states” while Mr. Obama will receive 5. (29 are tossups.)

More than one-fifth are elderly. As David Frum put it, they’re “people who pay no income taxes because their income takes the form of Social Security.” Most of them pay a higher percentage of their income in taxes than Mr. Romney. Here’s Ezra Klein again: “Among the American who paid no federal income taxes in 2011, 61 percent paid payroll taxes—which means they have jobs and, when you account for both sides of the payroll tax, they paid 15.3 percent of their income in taxes, which is higher than the 13.9 percent than Romney paid.”

Some of them are simply too poor to pay taxes. The Tax Policy Center has found that 18.1 percent of households paid neither income tax nor payroll taxes in 2011. More than half of this group is elderly; over one-third are nonelderly with income under $20,000.

Some of them are wealthy, and manage to slip into Mr. Romney’s dependent-victim category due to exemptions and deductions. As ABC noted in June, “20,752 households that reported earning more than $200,000 in 2009 paid no federal income taxes. About 1,500 of those tax-free Americans were millionaires.”
http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/18/the-47-percent/

I'd just like to add that its worth noting here how the tax system actually works. Even the federal government isn't dumb enough to get blood from a turnip. The first $30,000 dollars is tax exempt except for FICA (ie medicare and social security taxes) which are 6% and 1.15% for both employee and employer (=7.15 % or 15.3% if you are self-employed and file a 1099 which is a separate discussion me and Rusty have had recently)

So technically FICA isn't "federal income tax".

Its also worth noting that almost all of the tax fearmongers (like "consumer advocate" Clark Howard) either don't understand or intentionally misrepresent the way that federal income tax works. No one pays the "top bracket" rate on their entire income for example (which, again, would be astonishing if these propagandists didn't understand). But more importantly, it comes up when seniors are deliberating whether to start withdrawing money from their traditional (tax-deferred) IRA or rollover to a Roth IRA (which is taxed as ordinary income). You have to start withdrawing from your IRA ast 70 1/2.

The main reason to rollover that I hear is that "taxes may go up in the future" -- which means, precisely, DICK unless you are making significantly more than $30,000 in retirement.