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Jacques_Barrett
10-19-2009, 05:04 PM
Have you ever had a me first "friend" that looked out not for your interests but only for their interests?

Have you ever had a "friend" that had other "friends" that looked out not for your interests but only for those interests that could help their interests? This may all sound like double and triple speak but that in a nutshell is the US-Israel relationship. All for them, none for us.

I do consider Israel an ally, but not necessarily a friend. Friends take care of friends. Allies take care of themselves. Israelis can take care of themselves.

If it was up to me which obviously that is only political fantasy, I'd tell Israel that they are on their own TOTALLY. Do not expect the US people to provide blind support unless Israel has returned to the pre 1967 borders and returned all settlements. Also no more US tax dollars will go to Israel because we can't support the needs of our own people.

So when it comes to Israel I'm neutral, and I'm also America first. That's the relationship that we should have with every ally.

Kid of the Black Hole
10-19-2009, 06:12 PM
even by "progressive" standards. I mean, JB, tell me how anything you just wrote is remotely left wing (heres a hint: its not and neither are you)

Jacques_Barrett
10-19-2009, 06:40 PM
Sorry kid but I never understood that term "progressive standards". Even progressives have differing opinions. I give an opinion, I attempt to uphold standards of truth and placing the needs of the under-dog first, and putting politics always a distant second or third. I don't buy into the belief that 6 million Israelis should somehow be made the centerpiece of world - US policy.

Let the Israelis do what they wish and if it turns out against our interests then make sure they pay mightily for their blunder.

Kid of the Black Hole
10-19-2009, 11:31 PM
and I keep trying to figure out who "our" refers to. Are you really identiftying yourself with "world-US policy" here?

What you just wrote, is a pretty blatant right wing take on things

Two Americas
10-20-2009, 09:20 AM
Let's re-name the site National Socialist Independent and invite all of the banned members back to keep our friend here company.

Dhalgren
10-20-2009, 11:22 AM
I say we give this dood a viking funeral and be done with it...