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meganmonkey
01-11-2008, 09:23 AM
Chavez U-Turn on Socialism

January, 11 2008 By Stephanie Blankenburg
Source: New Statesman


On 2 January, a month on from his defeat in a referendum about a socialist reform of the county’s constitution, President Hugo Chávez Frías of Venezuela performed a stunning political U-turn.

In typically flamboyant style, he made a surprise call to Venezolana de Televisión, the country’s main state-owned TV channel, “to drop a ‘bombita’ (small bomb)” on an unsuspecting public: He had decided to abandon his socialist agenda “for now” in order to form stronger alliances with the country’s middle classes, its private sector and the national bourgeoisie instead.

To dispel any doubts about his seriousness in adopting this new political course, he replaced vice-president, Dr Jorge Rodríguez – the public face of his campaign for “21st century socialism” in Venezuela – with Ramón Carrizales, a military officer and technocrat, known for his good relationships with the country’s business sector.

Perhaps more significantly still, Chávez had already signed an end-of-the year amnesty for imprisoned perpetrators of a right-wing coup attempt against him in 2002.



The President’s version of events

Two days later, on his Sunday TV show “Aló Presidente” (Hallo, President), Chávez presented his fully reshuffled new cabinet and set out to explain the rationale for his action. His socialist project had been defeated, because the country had not been ready for such a radical approach.

The only democratic response was to acknowledge defeat and to adopt a more gradual and inclusive way forward. Apart from broadening alliances to bring private business and the middle classes back into the fold, this would also mean a more careful focus on mass education and communal self-organisation. Socialism had not been abandoned, but postponed, although, by the sound of things, for quite some time to come.

Chávez’ analysis of the current situation certainly has the pleasant ring of reasonableness to it. There also is little doubt, even amongst the most fervent socialists in Venezuela, that the agenda for “21st socialism”, adopted in January 2007 as abruptly as it has now been abandoned, had been rushed in with too much haste, limiting space and time for public consultation and debate of often complex issues.

Yet, the solidity of this analysis stands and falls with the correctness of its main premise – that the failure of voters to approve the constitutional reform project in the referendum of 2 December was a vote against socialism. This is much less clear.

What is clear is that the defeat of Chávez’ reform project at the polls is down to the abstention of roughly three million voters, who only a year earlier had voted for him as their president on the same socialist platform.

Compared to the December 2006 presidential elections, the opposition did not gain any votes. It seems unlikely such a substantial bloc of Chávez supporters should have been deterred merely by deficient campaigning a year after enthusiastically endorsing him.

In fact, a closer look at electoral patterns reveals a clear protest vote, not against a socialist agenda, but against corrupt administrations, at the national and the regional level.



Chavismo and the ‘oil curse’

To understand, where this protest vote came from and why it outweighed the pro-Chavez and pro-socialism vote, it helps to remember that Venezuela is defined by only one thing – oil.

For almost a century, the state has been a gigantic machine to distribute oil rent. In this context, left and right have a rather different meaning from their usual connotations.

On one side of a profound societal divide, there are those who benefit from oil from the very rich elites down to middle-rank state employees with comfortable pension arrangements.


On the other side, there are those who are excluded from a share in this bounty, the poor and the lower middle classes.

Not surprisingly, the main objective of the “insiders” is to defend and expand their share in the country’s oil wealth. Those on the outside divide into the small group with some chance of eventually making it to the inside, and the much larger group of people without any realistic chance of ever getting there.

The latter are, or used to be, core Chávez supporters: Their only hope is structural reform that dismantles the distributive rent state and replaces it by a productive developmental state. Until now, they had set their hopes on Chávez.

That these hopes have been rattled, is only marginally to do with a hasty referendum campaign, or with the people’s ideological immaturity.

On the contrary, one of the most impressive achievements of Chavismo is precisely the very high degree of political awareness and education amongst the poor.

No, the vote outcome has everything to do with the accession of many a Chavista to the rank of “insider” over the past eight years. This process has been gradual, and perhaps inevitable in a society in which institutionalised rentier-mechanisms have been endemic for decades.

But the contradiction between a radical socialist government agenda and the “Chavista elite”, bent on defending its share in the oil rent, effectively came to a head last year.

Far from being a left-wing administration, the bulk of ministerial positions in the old cabinet, as well as many governorships, remained in the hands of the “Chavista right”, or “new insiders”.

For example, the new vice-president, Ramón Carrizales, is also ex-minister of Housing, a core social policy ministry.

All through 2007, the battle between this “Chavista elite” and the “Chavista street” was fought out within government, with the so-called left-wingers, led by Jorge Rodríguez, in the minority.

It is an open secret in Venezuela that many governors, while publicly campaigning for a 'yes' vote in the referendum, used their resources to mobilise for the no-vote behind the scenes.

Equally an open secret is the sudden destabilisation of the economy through food shortages and an escalating black market dollar exchange rate which was at least allowed to linger on for longer than necessary.



A ‘soft coup’ or a return to electoral glory?

So the Chávez U-turn looks a lot less radical. For one, the new cabinet resembles its predecessor more than it differs from it. More importantly, it is not at all obvious the strategy of a shift to the “right” will help to pacify the country and stabilize the economy.

Why? Well if it is correct that the result of 2 December was essentially a protest vote by the “Chavista street” against the “Chavista elite”, then giving the latter free range is unlikely to boost Chávez with the popular base.

Yet, this popular base is all that stands between him and a ‘soft coup’ by an emboldened middle class, made up of the “Chavista elite”, the largely a-political state bureaucracy and moderate such as ex-General Raúl Baduel, a former ally and defence minister who joined the opposition ranks in November 2007.

After all, with the control over the country's state apparatus and economic resources firmly in the hands of these groups, and a weakened popular base for Chávez, perhaps unable to deliver election future victories, why would the middle classes and their allies in the new and old elites still need Chávez?

Chávez is too much of a seasoned politician not to know this. If he still has chosen this course, it is not necessarily because it is of his liking or even of his making alone. It simply reflects the real distribution of power on the ground. His most important response is not the much publicized government reshuffle, but his decision to accelerate the organisation of a Chavista mass party, the United Socialist Party of Venezuela (PSUV).

The task of getting this new mass party up to speed is an uphill one, especially with a “Chavista” government in place that has no interest in promoting such a move, and the popular base alienated.

But unless Chávez – and the PSUV – win the regional and municipal elections scheduled for November 2008, Venezuela might well have a new president before the year is out.


In charge of the unenviable task to built a mass party in a few months and to win elections by the end of the year is none other than Jorge Rodríguez.



Dr Stephanie Blankenburg is Lecturer in International Political Economy in the Economics Department at the School of Oriental and Social Studies (SOAS), London. She is currently on secondment to Venezuela as an economic advisor and analyst. This article reflects her personal analysis and is unrelated to any government views or policies.

http://zcommunications.org/znet/viewArticle/16168

Kid of the Black Hole
01-11-2008, 01:53 PM
I read this and I swear that at first I was sure it was satire. Also, I think the date may be wrong because I saw this a couple days ago

PS Megan have you heard about this:

http://danforr.org/

Two Americas
01-11-2008, 02:16 PM
If Chavez compromises, and caters to business interests in order to retain power, that will be the end of him being attacked for being a dictator and all of the rest.

The fuckers over at DU that are always attacking Chavez for authoritarianism will never be heard from again if business interests in Venezuela are accomodated and US commercial interests protected, no matter how brutal and repressive the regime may become. You know that is so. It pisses me off no end. Liars.

Kid of the Black Hole
01-11-2008, 02:32 PM
If Chavez compromises, and caters to business interests in order to retain power, that will be the end of him being attacked for being a dictator and all of the rest.

The fuckers over at DU that are always attacking Chavez for authoritarianism will never be heard from again if business interests in Venezuela are accomodated and US commercial interests protected, no matter how brutal and repressive the regime may become. You know that is so. It pisses me off no end. Liars.

I don't know what to make of this at all. I swear to God the whole thing reeks of satire. We need someone jaded like Anax to set us straight on this ;) Regardless, its hard to find good factual analysis on Venezuela let alone informed commentary that makes sense so I don't know whats really going down.

If the article above can be taken at face value its a stunning, absolute betrayal. I am looking to see if Fidel comments on this.

EDIT: the hell with DU. Politics is just a surrogate activity for them anyway. Or, really, talking about politics since that's all they do. Why would anyone ever give a fuck what they say or think.

wolfgang von skeptik
01-11-2008, 03:15 PM
on a work morning with no time for further research is that this is China's doing. Whether China has truly abandoned Marxism for state capitalism aka fascism or whether it is running a very long-term Sun Tzu operation (using capitalism to bring about capitalism's downfall), the short-term consequences are the same. In either case Chavez was a sour note in the global symphony of sino-superiority and had to be stopped -- the Venezuelan people betrayed -- lest Chavez's quest for economic democracy spark a war with the doddering U.S. empire and thus upset Chinese access to Venezuelan oil.

Re: China, my suspicion is that both factions -- the Sun Tzu group and the Swiss Bank Account set -- are (and have been for some time) quarreling over who will control the Chinese autocracy. Alas, history now proves beyind a scintilla of doubt that money is not only eternally omnipotent but omnipotently evil, so there is no doubt who will win.

Which is yet another reason I believe human freedom suppressed now is suppressed forever, with no "liberation" possible until our species becomes extinct. Here of course is the unspeakable truth hidden in Hillary's denunciation of Obama and Edwards for encouraging impossible expectations: "we don't need to be raising the false hopes of our country about what can be delivered."

Czar Nicholas II said much the same thing a few years before the Russian Revolution -- but the world of the Czar's time bears not one scintilla of resemblance to the world of today. In the early 20th Century the issue was liberation versus oppression. Today however the global conflict has shrunken to a clash between oppressors -- Abrahamic theocrats versus capitalist slavemasters -- and so it will remain for as long as humanity survives.

Chavez's treachery is but one more incontrovertable proof.

chlamor
01-11-2008, 03:25 PM
http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/3042

blindpig
01-11-2008, 03:29 PM
I dunno, nothing about this in venezuelanalysis.com or Granma. Are they in shock or is this bullshit? Recent analysis here:

http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/2981

If this is true it is a shocking betrayal, indeed.

meganmonkey
01-11-2008, 03:30 PM
If Chavez compromises, and caters to business interests in order to retain power, that will be the end of him being attacked for being a dictator and all of the rest.

The fuckers over at DU that are always attacking Chavez for authoritarianism will never be heard from again if business interests in Venezuela are accomodated and US commercial interests protected, no matter how brutal and repressive the regime may become. You know that is so. It pisses me off no end. Liars.

I don't know what to make of this at all. I swear to God the whole thing reeks of satire. We need someone jaded like Anax to set us straight on this ;) Regardless, its hard to find good factual analysis on Venezuela let alone informed commentary that makes sense so I don't know whats really going down.

If the article above can be taken at face value its a stunning, absolute betrayal. I am looking to see if Fidel comments on this.

EDIT: the hell with DU. Politics is just a surrogate activity for them anyway. Or, really, talking about politics since that's all they do. Why would anyone ever give a fuck what they say or think.

Yeah, I posted it mainly to get some input from other people - not really sure what to make of it. It may just be garbage. On the other hand Chavez' '21st Century Socialism' is rather accomodating to the global capitalist market on some levels so maybe there is some truth in it. The whole concept of a Chavista Elite is intriguing, though, and I don't know much about it. It makes sense unfortunately.

What bugs me the most is that, as far as I understand it, there was a fair amount of capitalist influence and foreign $ involved in getting the referendum voted down (public opinion polls showed majority support till right before the vote IIRC), and I would think someone who truly wants to fight for the regular poor folks wouldn't see it as some mandate to abandon socialist aspirations.

But as Kid says, it's hard to get a handle on it based on the coverage available. I think I may have to quit my job, learn Spanish, and move the hell down to South America to figure out wtf is really going on :)

Kid of the Black Hole
01-11-2008, 03:34 PM
http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/3042

I think there's some truth there regarding how the reforms were moved along to the vote, but I don't really think its a correct analysis. Yes, the reforms thing was botched but the result wasn't the worst thing to ever happen.

Most of the reforms weren't that significant in the first place. Many should or could have been enacted through the legislature. The removal of term limits reform made no sense in the first place. How did they think that was going to play??

Further, had they won by the slimmest of margins that would've given opposition forces ammunition for a major counter-offensive.

I don't get any of this. I never have. Nobody doing any talking about it gets it either.

I understand there are alot of major players involved here --Russia, China in particular -- but someone must be piecing together a real picture of what's going on..right?

Kid of the Black Hole
01-11-2008, 03:36 PM
If Chavez compromises, and caters to business interests in order to retain power, that will be the end of him being attacked for being a dictator and all of the rest.

The fuckers over at DU that are always attacking Chavez for authoritarianism will never be heard from again if business interests in Venezuela are accomodated and US commercial interests protected, no matter how brutal and repressive the regime may become. You know that is so. It pisses me off no end. Liars.

I don't know what to make of this at all. I swear to God the whole thing reeks of satire. We need someone jaded like Anax to set us straight on this ;) Regardless, its hard to find good factual analysis on Venezuela let alone informed commentary that makes sense so I don't know whats really going down.

If the article above can be taken at face value its a stunning, absolute betrayal. I am looking to see if Fidel comments on this.

EDIT: the hell with DU. Politics is just a surrogate activity for them anyway. Or, really, talking about politics since that's all they do. Why would anyone ever give a fuck what they say or think.

Yeah, I posted it mainly to get some input from other people - not really sure what to make of it. It may just be garbage. On the other hand Chavez' '21st Century Socialism' is rather accomodating to the global capitalist market on some levels so maybe there is some truth in it. The whole concept of a Chavista Elite is intriguing, though, and I don't know much about it. It makes sense unfortunately.

What bugs me the most is that, as far as I understand it, there was a fair amount of capitalist influence and foreign $ involved in getting the referendum voted down (public opinion polls showed majority support till right before the vote IIRC), and I would think someone who truly wants to fight for the regular poor folks wouldn't see it as some mandate to abandon socialist aspirations.

But as Kid says, it's hard to get a handle on it based on the coverage available. I think I may have to quit my job, learn Spanish, and move the hell down to South America to figure out wtf is really going on :)

From the ground its going to be a whole different picture because they're having major agricultural issues, not the least of which is capitalist induced shortages.

anaxarchos
01-11-2008, 03:51 PM
If Chavez compromises, and caters to business interests in order to retain power, that will be the end of him being attacked for being a dictator and all of the rest.

The fuckers over at DU that are always attacking Chavez for authoritarianism will never be heard from again if business interests in Venezuela are accomodated and US commercial interests protected, no matter how brutal and repressive the regime may become. You know that is so. It pisses me off no end. Liars.

I don't know what to make of this at all. I swear to God the whole thing reeks of satire. We need someone jaded like Anax to set us straight on this ;) Regardless, its hard to find good factual analysis on Venezuela let alone informed commentary that makes sense so I don't know whats really going down.

If the article above can be taken at face value its a stunning, absolute betrayal. I am looking to see if Fidel comments on this.

EDIT: the hell with DU. Politics is just a surrogate activity for them anyway. Or, really, talking about politics since that's all they do. Why would anyone ever give a fuck what they say or think.

Yeah, I posted it mainly to get some input from other people - not really sure what to make of it. It may just be garbage. On the other hand Chavez' '21st Century Socialism' is rather accomodating to the global capitalist market on some levels so maybe there is some truth in it. The whole concept of a Chavista Elite is intriguing, though, and I don't know much about it. It makes sense unfortunately.

What bugs me the most is that, as far as I understand it, there was a fair amount of capitalist influence and foreign $ involved in getting the referendum voted down (public opinion polls showed majority support till right before the vote IIRC), and I would think someone who truly wants to fight for the regular poor folks wouldn't see it as some mandate to abandon socialist aspirations.

But as Kid says, it's hard to get a handle on it based on the coverage available. I think I may have to quit my job, learn Spanish, and move the hell down to South America to figure out wtf is really going on :)

...or did y'all have him on a different list?

http://www.ccds.charlotte.nc.us/History/Egypt/05/sullivan/Nasser.jpg
http://www.landenweb.net/images%5Cimgindonesie%5Csukarno.jpg
http://www.csdm.qc.ca/petite-bourgogne/calendrier/images/mai/27/nehru36.jpg
http://www.internationalvoting.com/tanzania/nyerere2.jpg
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/images2/hugo_chavez2.jpg

blindpig
01-11-2008, 04:03 PM
Yer a heartbreaker, Anax, and the voice of perspective.

Ah well, that hope shit again. No substitute for work. I can see where you might take this, if you were so inclined.

Regardless of true or not, a lesson.

meganmonkey
01-11-2008, 04:40 PM
...or did y'all have him on a different list?


Naw, y'all have knocked out any illusions I may have had about anything already :wink:

As usual, I'm just trying to get a handle on things. The article Chlamor posted fleshed things out a bit for me, and I'll read the rest later.

(And Kid - Yeah, I've been to some MECAWI events in Detroit, and in 2002 and 2003 I went on the buses they organized to DC for the big marches. I think they're a pretty good group as far as anti-war groups go. They have no loyalties to political parties or any of that bullshit, no hidden agenda that I can see).

Kid of the Black Hole
01-11-2008, 07:50 PM
Ha I think I found all those guys in one photo

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1e/NonAlignedMovement.jpg/320px-NonAlignedMovement.jpg

anaxarchos
01-11-2008, 09:12 PM
Ha I think I found all those guys in one photo

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1e/NonAlignedMovement.jpg/320px-NonAlignedMovement.jpg

All "those guys" were good guys. They were patriots and true "fathers" of their countries. BUT, they weren't goin' for socialism except as a figure of speech on the way to national independence. There was another list at the same time and it started here:

http://www.nndb.com/people/632/000092356/ho-chi-minh-1-sized.jpg

Altogether, a different breed of cat... but, it didn't hurt that that there was the CCCP (and later, the PRC).
.

blindpig
01-12-2008, 10:21 AM
I don't understand why this story hasn't gotten more traction, I'd expect the red-baiters to come out of the woodwork for this one. The only mention that does not reference the New Statesman was in the Economist. Odd, don't ya think? Not to say I'm dismissing it, just not totally sold on it.

wolfgang von skeptik
01-12-2008, 02:17 PM
The morning sun
shines over the prison wall,

And drives away the shadows
and miasma of hopelessness.

A life-giving breeze
blows across the earth.

A hundred imprisoned faces
smile once more.

*****

"In jail there is
neither flower nor wine

What could one do
when the night
is so exquisite?

To the window
I go and look
at the moonlight

Through the bars
the moon gazes
at the poet.

*****

Moonlight
sneaks in through a window
urgent for poetic consummation.

Please wait until
military affairs
are less urgently demanding.