The goal is to get independent progressives to move en masse to low population counties/towns with the expressed goal of gaining voting majorities. When you control real estate, you can control your destiny.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LibertyDistricts2008

What does having "voting majorities" get you? what do you see as being the advantage of this "plan"? Thanks...

Thank you.

With seemingly little success.

This solves nothing, it is but another scam for the gentryfied, who but they can afford to move to the boonies and buy property?

Who will cut their grass?

the grass will grow to just one inch and then stop! Why? Because they will have a voting majority!

and they've got a point. After living here 6 years I've seen enough to agree that they probably should be their own country. It's a whole different world...

It should be rather obvious. When you get voting majorities, you gain power, and that enables you to implement your agenda.

It's not a scam. It's common sense. You know the Free Staters in New Hampshire envisioned a plan to move 20,000 libertarians to the state. Well they didn't get anything near that. Anyway, they just thought they were going to plop all these people into the state and start a revolution. It simply doesn't work that way. Tip O'Neill said it best, "All politics is local." If you can't control your local environment, you're certainly not going to be able to EFFECTIVELY influence things at a state or national level.
And moving to another county doesn't necessarily necessitate a lot of expense. Many low population counties are within reasonable driving distances of larger cities so ideally many people could retain their current jobs. The idea is to establish residency so as to be able to vote.

Tell me about it. I lived in West Texas for 6 years . . . a nightmare. Lucky to have gotten out of there with my life. If you choose to live in Texas, stay east of the Dallas-San Antonio corridor.

Did you have an agenda in mind?

You're not talking about liberals, are you? That would be living hell.

What is your agenda? Your platform? Your party?

In my neighborhood in Detroit, a voting majority is there and that doesn't mean any power to have the needs of the people there taken care of. The white suburbanites sand wealthy people control the economy and the state legislature.

Forming small homogenous communities goes on all the time - by those with the resources to do so - and those communities work quite nicely to promote and satisfy the needs and desires of the wealthy people. They are able to "implement their agenda." For poor people that doesn't work.

Well, as I'm participating at the progressive independent forum that should pretty much indicate my politics. I believe in a capitalist-socialist mix based on common sense . . . and I think there are quite a few others out there like me. Recent polls clearly show a large upsurge in the number of moderates out there and I believe most of these are socially to the left.

Well, I'm a believer in big government, but COMPETENT big government. I want to see socialized medicine, a better educational system(not cookie cutter) and more power given to the local municipalities and states. One size fits all government does NOT work in my view.

The problem is that the current Democratic party isn't a true progressive party. Oh yeah, they talk the talk to get elected, but when it comes to walking the walk . . . well we all know how that goes. It's pretty much business as usual. Not always, but in many instances. And you're right about what the REALITY is, and this is why the working poor HAVE to unify and stand together in order to accomplish something. There is great truth to the axiom, strength in numbers.

There is no such thing as a 'mix based on common sense', not that I know of. What do you mean by that? What would the social and economic system look like?

'Progressive' and 'independent' can mean lots of things, that's something that's been proven here time and time again, :)

pick up and move, that's the first step?

Forgive me for being skeptical. :shrug:

And after 100 conversations about it, I still have no idea what a 'true progressive' is. The only thing 'progressives' have in common is that they call themselves 'progressive'.