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Two Americas
05-01-2007, 03:44 PM
Has anyone here who's had some experience in corporate employment noticed that those who get promotions are the ones who are less emotionally accessible, more secretive, and often less liked among the staff pool? In my experience, whenever I was considered for advance, I was invariably given a test task which seemed to put me in a moral dilemma. I think that's built into the system. Obviously when that happens, the person who advances will be the one with a greater degree of sociopathic tendency. I've seen kind people get relegated to the bottom, and managers who stand with their staff when pressured to go along with shitty things from the top get singled out for a subtle process of grinding them down till they're forced to quit--or framed into a position in which they can be 'legally' fired. That's a pathocratic system.

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Good people get screwed because they don't have killer instinct so they don't see it in sociopaths. Not at first. Those who are the most trustworthy people tend to give their trust easily. After getting burned a few times, we learn that theirs types that look like nice people and seem friendly, but they're take things from others that don't belong to them. And they get away with it.

Then one realizes that such 'takers' have a different mind set. They have a different set of values. They are amoral. To them something you've got is theirs for the taking if they outsmart you, or force you. So it's clear that they see people not as other human beings with feelings and rights, they see humans as objects. Prey.

They are always a minority. They can be defeated in social circumstances of transparency, and when the normal folks recognize their symptoms and don't trust them and keep their collective eyes on them. So much of what they do depends on our consent, whether we know the fine print or not.

Over the centuries, normal people have gotten the upper hand in times when the public got wise to too much game playing and abuse going on. That's where any good parts of the system came from. Constitutions and laws based on equity, and transparency. Times of imbalance come in a long cycle, and we happen to be in one now. The tide will turn as more people realize that 'going along' only encourages pathocrats at any level of the hierarchy.

The Genesis of Evil on a Macrosocial Scale (http://www.cassiopaea.com/cassiopaea/psychopath_macrosocial_evil.htm)

Two Americas
05-01-2007, 03:48 PM
The Camouflage Society

We live in a "camouflage society," a society in which some psychopathic traits- egocentricity, lack of concern for others, superficiality, style over substance, being "cool," manipulativeness, and so forth- increasingly are tolerated and even valued. It is the egocentric, cold-blooded and remorseless psychopaths who blend into all aspects of society and have such devastating impacts on people around them. They learn to recognize each other in a crowd as early as childhood, and they develop an awareness of the existence of other individuals similar to them. They also become conscious of being different from the world of those other people surrounding them. They view us from a certain distance, take a paraspecific variety.
Lobaczewski, shows us how and why a truly global conspiracy can and does exist on our planet though it certainly isn’t a conspiracy in the normally accepted sense of the word. Their world is forever divided into “us and them” - their world with its own laws and customs and that other foreign world full of presumptuous ideas and customs in light of which they are condemned morally.

Imagine school teachers with power over your children who are “covert-aggressives.” Imagine doctors, psychologists, “ministers of the faith” and politicians in such positions.

With this understanding, we begin to get an even better idea of how psychopaths can conspire and actually pull it off: in a society where evil is not studied or understood, they easily “rise to the top” and proceed to condition normal people to accept their dominance, to accept their lies without question.

Long periods of preoccupation with the self and “accumulating benefits” for the self, diminish the ability to accurately read the environment and other people. […]It is this feature, this hystericization of society, that enables pathological plotters, snake charmers, and other primitive deviants to act as essential factors in the processes of the origination of evil on a macro-social scale.

We see exactly this pattern of social development in the United States over the past 50 to 60 years or even more. The fact is, many people who may have been born “normal” have become what might be termed “secondary psychopaths” or characteropaths due to the influence of psychopathy on American culture from many fields - including science, medicine, psychology, law, etc - where they are conscious of what they are doing to “normal” people!

If we speculate the actual number of psychopaths to be around 6 percent - or even just 4 percent as Stout claims - then these other "people" Lobaczewski is talking about could be as frequent as 12 to 18 percent of the population. That would mean that the total number of psychopaths plus "almost psychopaths" would be 16 to 24 percent of the total population.

Political Ponerology: A Science on The Nature of Evil adjusted for Political Purposes (http://breakfornews.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2399)