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PinkoCommie
01-20-2010, 06:22 AM
If there isn't any recognition that we got the message and we are trying to recalibrate and do things differently, we are not only going to risk looking ignorant but arrogant." - [link:www.politico.com/news/stories/0110/31693.html#ixzz0d7QZk4ks|New York Rep. Anthony Weiner] in the aftermath of the loss of Teddy Kennedy's senate seat.

A comment from days gone by from the disconcertingly continually prescient Anax:

[i]While the current Democrats and "progressives" invoke the images of the New Deal and FDR, they are really artifacts of the 1960s. Born in Camelot and JFK, fueled by the entry of "anti-war activists", civil rights "veterans," and "advocates" of all kinds, mobilized by RFK and Clean Gene campaigns and empowered by the vast influx of fresh meat, sold on the need of working "within the system" into the party, every illusion of today's Libs seems new but is actually terribly old.

So too are the illusions and ideas of this "movement." Reaffirmed again and again by the supposed ability of a "progressive culture" to actually "reform" a politic tarnished but not "broken", the bullshit of our day seems to draw almost exclusively on the lessons of Watergate and the Church Committee and the past successes of Civil Rights programs and various "initiatives"... "not the whole loaf perhaps but not crumbs either..."

It seems to me that all of that is over with this election. Nothing, nothing, nothing that these clowns have tried has "worked". In fact, in place of aging "Liberals," rotting away in their Senate seats, they have managed to enable bipartisan agreements on Imperial wars and the elimination of 200 year old Constitutional elements, the election of three "center" Democratic Presidents (Carter, Clinton, and ... Obama) who have done nothing but "enable" the hated Republicans, the usurpation of even their "Web" and its unique ability to extract cash from the flush suburbs, and the actual growth of contempt for their "power" by every end of the established political spectrum.

So, where do the "left Democrats" go now? New party? Fuck political parties? Personal disillusionment? What? Or, do they pick themselves up and try it yet again with minor revisions to the "plan"?

Kid of the Black Hole
01-20-2010, 07:19 AM
is that they HAD to govern, HAD to "do something". And in response they dither and fiddle and the Machine keeps churning on.

Thats not going to cut it.

It took Obama less than a year to go from pedestal to pillory..and the only direction in sight is down. The Machine will eat its own. Even Nature is more forgiving.

Dhalgren
01-20-2010, 08:08 AM
that Obama and his government HAS done something. It has been working over-time to fulfill its constituents' desires, demands, and requirements. What the "left Democrats"(?) seem unable to grasp is that they are either fools or they are lying to themselves or both. This administration is doing exactly what it was elected to do, there is simply a disconnect among the faithful. I have this strong urge to say, "Get over it!" But I won't. Most of these yuppies are living in a dreamworld, anyway. "Capitalism works, it just needs (fill-in-the-blank)!"

At some point some of these gentrified fucks may wake up, but the vast majority of citizens are pretty much wide awake and wondering what the hell is next...

Two Americas
01-20-2010, 09:57 AM
No president has fallen so far so fast ever before. Breath taking really.

Kid of the Black Hole
01-20-2010, 11:07 AM
but I can just imagine the fallout..how much longer can they go on reeling like this?

anaxarchos
01-20-2010, 11:40 AM
It is stunning how far things have come in five or six years. There is a new ballgame emerging. Sure, I had a general idea of the direction of travel - as any materialist would have had - but the speed of evolution is much faster than I would have predicted...

I think it is even faster than my friend Chlamor would have guessed... though there is no chance he would admit it.

The implicit statement in your OP is correct. It's time to start thinking about what is to be done.

anaxarchos
01-20-2010, 11:45 AM
It is one of those quirks of nature.

blindpig
01-20-2010, 12:27 PM
phantoms shuffling to and fro, the wails of regret, lies and promises from those who would escape their fate, the stinking funk of the damned. Everything but the honesty of the Man-Killer.