blindpig
10-15-2015, 10:39 AM
About adulation and sabotage
colonelcassad
October 15 14:15
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Regarding incendiary speeches Internet Ombudsman about the future of Russian programmers. Internet Ombudsman Russia Marinichev: If you want to harm the country, then you should invest in the training of IT-specialists in Russia
The Public Board of the Russian Federation yesterday discussed the prospects of import substitution technologies, closed due to Western sanctions, the newspaper "Kommersant". Those present, scientists have noted that the Russian science must move from defense to civilian projects. Internet Ombudsman under President Dmitry Marinichev disagreed, saying that the only way to defeat the United States - to impose Russian technology to other countries with "military presence" and "passive or active military actions in the territories of the US sphere of influence." Marinichev also said that cooking programmers in Russia makes no sense:
the US victory in the peaceful competition of the technology can not be admitted Presidential Ombudsman and gave examples of their industry. According to him, the program of the American companies "clearly ahead of any information product of our company - Kaspersky or someone else." This defender of the rights of internet business made a surprise announcement: "I honestly and openly say - if you want to harm the country, then you should invest in the training of IT-specialists in Russia. More harm to make impossible." Mr. Marinichev sure prepared for gosschet specialist "pray" to Western companies "and the first thing is to try to go from here to there." "I agree, preparation of programmers - bad job, - supported the center's director of strategic innovation," Rostelecom "Boris Glazkov.- general, programmers will be soon replace the computer, so that he wrote the code. "
Last Updated (10:30): Zmitser Marinichev after item sold on the Internet, he explained his position on Facebook:
Yes, especially nothing to comment. To understand the need to listen to the speech of the men of science to me. Actually the meaning of my speech was to scientists to determine what they want. Military confrontation with the United States, which clearly means isolationism. State order for science and import substitution all. But it also means the need to capture new markets. Because only a small uniquely Russian. But the capture of new markets under this option is a military confrontation with the United States. Active or passive matter. But just a confrontation. In this case, the training of IT specialists for the Russian Federation of course sabotage. Or the other way, which offers ASI. This definition Consumer markets of the future, training and resources and capture these markets. But then we have to be integrated into the global system. And we specialize in a certain niche. As a global center of excellence and a leader in this segment. We have the same discussion was the perspective of Russia against all. Well, about the war at all classics. [...] But in general of course interesting experience for me, when phrases out of context and turned into slogans are issued for absoloyutnuyu position.
Https://roem.ru/15-10-2015/210233/the-mo re-coders- -fewer-the coders / - zinc
http://pastebin.com/YnL0sGqh - full text Marinicheva - there is also a lot of revelations
PS. There is actually more clarification zaboristye than the first quote. According to the character, in a systemic conflict with the US, programmers do not have to cook - it will sabotage. Where, then, will take programmers if they are not prepared in a confrontational character explains. It should be recalled that the country was already in approximately similar conditions of strong technological gap with the leading capitalist countries. And then also said that to overcome this backwardness can not be stored, but the presence of the political will and the necessary personnel, this problem was solved in a much more difficult conditions for the country.
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The external environment. We have come to power in the country, the technique of which is terribly backward. Along with a few big industrial units more or less based on the new technology, we have hundreds and thousands of factories and mills, machines that do not stand up to scrutiny from the point of view of modern achievements. Meanwhile, we have around him a number of capitalist countries with much more developed and modern industrial technology than our country. Look at the capitalist countries, and you will see that there is technique not only is, but just runs forward, surpassing the old forms of industrial technique. And it turns out that, on the one hand, we have in our country the most advanced Soviet system and the most advanced power throughout the world, the Soviet government, on the other hand, we have over backward equipment industry, a would represent the base of socialism and Soviet power. Do you think that you can achieve the final victory of socialism in our country, in the presence of this contradiction? What should be done to eliminate this contradiction? To do this, you must ensure that catch up with and surpass the advanced technology of the developed capitalist countries. We caught up with and surpassed the advanced capitalist countries in terms of establishing a new political order, the Soviet system. It's good. But this is not enough. In order to achieve the final victory of socialism in our country, we still have to catch up and overtake these countries in technical and economic terms. Either we will achieve it, or we zatrut. This is true not only in terms of the construction of socialism. This is also true in terms of upholding the independence of our country in conditions of capitalist encirclement. Unable to defend the independence of our country, not having sufficient industrial base for defense. It is not possible to create a manufacturing base, not having the highest technology in the industry.
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I have spoken in the report of our general line, about our perspective in the sense to turn our country from an agrarian into an industrial country. What is an agrarian country? Agrarian country, it is - a country that exports agricultural produce and imports equipment, but the equipment itself (cars, etc..) Does not produce or produces almost on their own. If we get stuck at the stage of development at which we have to import equipment and machinery, rather than producing them in-house, we can not be assured by transforming our country into an appendage of the capitalist system. That is why we need to stay the course for the development of our production means. ("The XIV Congress of the CPSU (b)" vol.7 str.354.)
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The authors of the Dawes Plan, we would like to restrict the production of, say, a calico, but that is not enough, because we want to produce not only cotton, but also the machines necessary for the production of cotton goods. They would like us to limit the production of, say, cars, but that is not enough, for we want to manufacture not only cars, but also the machines that produce automobiles. They want us to limit the production of, say, the shoes, but that is not enough, for we want to manufacture not only shoes, but also the machines that produce shoes. And so on. D., And so on. N. ("The XIV Congress of the CPSU (b)" vol.7 str.356.)
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Some comrades think that industrialization development of any kind of industry. There are even some queer fellows who believe that even Ivan the Terrible, who once created certain embryonic industry was industrialist. If you go this route, then Peter the Great should be styled the first industrialist. This, of course, wrong. Not all industrial development is industrialization. The center of industrialization, its base is the development of heavy industry (fuel, metal and m. P.), In the development, in the end of production means, to develop their engineering. Industrialisation has the task not only to maintain our national economy as a whole to an increase in its share of the industry, but it still has the task, in this development to provide for our country surrounded by capitalist states, economic independence, keep her from becoming an appendage of world capitalism. A country of the dictatorship of the proletariat, which is in a capitalist environment, remain economically independent if she does not produce at home the means of production, if it gets stuck at the stage of development where it is necessary to keep the economy tethered to the capitalistically developed countries producing and exporting means of production. Getting stuck at this stage - to put ourselves in submission to global capital. ("The Economic Situation and policies of the party" vol.8 p.120.)
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What does the industrialization of our country? That means to turn the country into an agrarian to industrial. This means to deliver and develop our industry on a new technical basis.
Nowhere else in the world had happened, a huge and backward agrarian country has been transformed into an industrial country without plundering the colonies, without plundering other countries, or without big loans and long-term loans from abroad. Recall the history of industrial development in England, Germany, America, and you'll see that this is so. Even America, the most powerful of all the capitalist countries had to be busy after the Civil War as much as 30-40 years in order to deliver its industry at the expense of loans and long-term loans from outside and robbery of adjacent states and islands.
Can we take this "tested" way? No, we can not, because the nature of the Soviet regime does not tolerate colonial robbery, and on large loans and long-term loans there is no reason to expect.
The old Russia, tsarist Russia, was to industrialization in a different way - by entering into enslaving loans and by granting enslaving concessions for the main branches of our industry . Did you know that almost all Donbass, more than half of Petersburg industry, Baku oil and a number of railways, not to mention the electricity industry in the hands of foreign capitalists. It was a way of industrialization at the expense of the peoples of the Soviet Union and against the interests of the working class. It is clear that we can not take this path not for that, we struggled with the yoke of capitalism, not that we have overthrown capitalism, in order later to voluntarily under the yoke of capitalism.
There is only one path, the path of their own savings, the path of the economy, the path of prudent housekeeping in order to accumulate the necessary resources for the industrialization of our country. There are no words, the task is difficult. But despite the difficulties, we already allow it. Yes, comrades, four years after the Civil War, we already accomplishing this task.
("Speech at a meeting of workers of the Stalin Railway Workshops October Road" v.9 p.172. )
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It is worth noting that in the speeches today "effective managers":
1 . There is a classic example of cognitive dissonance, the character is an obvious ideological Westerner for which is happening now in the relations between Russia and the United States as a sickle in the balls, so many years preparing to be built in the western world, and here the sanctions comparison with LIH, string bag of hot and cold wars, plus prospects long confrontation, which does not depend on what scientists believe there lobbyists or online business, it is already the de facto go and then you can either accept the fait accompli or deny reality. Marinichev also pretends that we are still at the stage of selection - in conflict or in conflict with the US, while the choice made long ago, and not even the Russian Federation.
2. Well and certainly the worst statement about the quality of Russian special software by the example of Kaspersky. Though I use Avast but Kaspersky is among many friends and in general the quality of it is unlikely to greatly inferior to the leaders of anti-virus software market. Yandex just recently made its inclusion in the search with Windows 10 on the territory of the Russian Federation. There are excellent video and audio players produced domestically. That is quite competitive foods are available, including in the consumer segment. Of course, the US is one of the leaders in this field and ahead of Russia, but there is that the situation is lagging, not a black and white picture - there is an excellent software, and we have all the crap. And about the backlog, it is worth noting that the critical backlog of the USSR from the United States in computer technology occurred at a time when the creation of its technologies have moved to western copying.
3. Regarding crying on the topic - programmers leave. Marinichev recognizes that the country is unable to create suitable conditions for the retention of good young programmers and provide them with the prospects of working in the country. A great reason to do nothing. The character does not even admit the thought that here it is possible to change something. This is the question of the brain drain. It would seem to such positions must appoint people who aspire to make a difference, and not those who simply konstantiruyut that shit and do something useless.
4. Well Glazkov with his revelations about writing computer code is also "pleased." If your computer ever could across the country to replace the entire market of programmers, it is already possible to prepare programmers do not, the computer is ever so appears. This protection Chewbacca some. This makes no sense. To be honest, after such revelations bit anxious for domestic programmers.
In general, it is difficult here not to remember the old debate on the topic of "kowtowing" to the West.
On the "kowtowing" to the West ...
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Pyotr Kapitsa
And yet another "solution" of Stalin. In 1947, he put forward the task of combating "kowtowing" to the West, though ponachaly it was not so much about ideology literally true sense, as the situation of natural and technical sciences. One expression of this new policy was Stalin's speech to the leaders of the Writers Union of 13 May 1947, which recorded (on a memory the next day, that is, apparently, quite accurately) Konstantin Simonov: "But there is a topic that is very important - said Stalin - which need to eainteresovalis writers ... If you take our average intellectuals, scientific intellectuals, professors ... they have an unjustified admiration for foreign culture. Everyone feels even minors are not wholly-owned, used to consider themselves in the position eternal disciples ... Why are we worse? What is it? It happens like this: a person does a great job and he does not understand ... ... We have to fight with the spirit of self-abasement ... "etc.
This was because it It was not about ideology, but about science, fundamentally new formulation of the question; Before the war, in 1930, Stalin has repeatedly stated unequivocally just need to "apprenticeship" of the West, primarily the United States: "We would like people to science and technology in America were our teachers ... and we are their students "21.
The new" designation "of Stalin during his lifetime was perceived as further evidence of his personal" wisdom ", and later - as a manifestation of it - again lichnoy- stupid nuisance that caused severe damage to the development of science. However, there is every reason to believe it was Stalin's "instruction" was not the result of his own thoughts: it was caused by a letter, which in the previous year, in 1946 to Stalin one of the most prominent scientists of the time Kapitsa. By sending his manuscript existing before the revolution writer and historian of science and technology L.I.Gumilevskogo (1890- 1976) "Russian engineers," Kapitza informed that the book was created at his suggestion: "I ... he said that it would be necessary to write ... our talents in the art, which are many, but we know little. He did it, and you get ... a picture of our advanced technology for many centuries. We are, apparently, a little imagine what a great well of creative talent has always been in our engineering ... we usually underestimated and overestimated its foreign.
"And" one of the main domestic shortcomings, "according to the Kapitza thought -" and an underestimation of its reassessment of the foreign forces. After all, excessive modesty - is an even greater disadvantage than overconfidence. In order to secure the victory (in the war - VK) and raise our cultural influence abroad must be aware of our creative strength and capabilities. Clearly we felt that now we have to power way to raise our own original technique successfully ... we can do it only when we believe in the talent of our engineers and scientists ... when we finally realize that the creative potential of our people no less, and even more than the others .. . That this is so, apparently, is proved by the fact that after all these centuries no one was unable to swallow ".
The letter Kapitsa made a very strong impression on Stalin, as is clear from the following. Kapitsa even considered it his duty to share different ideas with Stalin (as well as other senior leaders of the country). Since 1936 he constantly sent his letters to Stalin; in 1945 alone, Stalin received from him at least five letters (if we have in mind only known to have been published. However, Kapitsa never received a reply, and only after the above letter Stalin wrote to him (in the next letter thanking the leader Petr Leonidovich: "Thank you for your nice letter, I was very glad it"): "Comrade. Kapitsa All received your letters. The letters are many instructive books ... As L.Gumilevskogo" Russian engineers, "then it is very interesting and will be published in the near future "(the book was published already beginning in 1947).
A comparison of the cited letter Kapitza with recorded Simonov words of Stalin, facing the figures piteratury, it is clear that they are close even textually. And one can hardly challenge that the next "solution" of Stalin, which had diverse implications, based on this letter. As already noted, Stalin, speaking of "unjustified admiration" to the West, he saw the mood ((average of "scientific intelligentsia," Professor "(but not , say academics), in which refinement naturally see the manifestation of the fact that the "highest)) scientific intelligentsia in the face of the academician (1939) Kapitza just opened it, Stalin's eyes to" one of the main "shortcomings in the field of science. A prominent scientists, have long paid great and passionate attention to the general state of Russian science, expressed in his letter to Stalin, again, not some personal wish, but awareness of the urgent needs in life sciences in general. And for all possible reservations taken in 1947-m course has led to the fact that in 1954 the Soviet Union began to work the world's first nuclear power plant, and in 1957 launched the world's first artificial satellite.
Someone might argue that the great scientific Russian technical achievements have been made possible not because of the above "decision", and in spite of it. However, in a letter to Stalin Kapitza given an accurate analysis of the situation, based on the history of Russian engineering idea, outlined in the book L.I.Gumilevskogo: "From the book - concludes Kapitsa, - is clear:
1) A large number of the largest engineering undertakings infancy with us.
2) We are almost never able to develop them (except in the field of construction).
3) It is often the cause of non-innovation that we usually underestimated and overestimated its foreign "(s.247). For example, A.F.Mozhaysky in 1881 constructed the prototype of the aircraft, and B.L.Rozing in 1911 conducted the first laboratory telecast, but the practical implementation of these discoveries occurred later in the United States ...
And the Russian leadership in the establishment - 1954 - Nuclear power plant in Obninsk and flight - in 1957-m - satellite (which introduced this Russian word in all languages) was in fact a completely new phenomenon for Russia, thirst and which gave rise to a letter Kapitza Stalin.
Therefore, in the "solution" that is put forward Kapitsa and, to use a fashionable now a word, he announced Stalin put it, if you will, the will of history, not self-will of the leader.
Curiously, Konstantin Simonov, telling the thirty-odd years, in 1979, and moreover, not relying on the publication of the story (which took over a dozen years) about Stalin's speech, found it necessary to declare that "the very idea of the need to deal with self-deprecation, self-awareness is not one hundred percent, unjustified worship of a stranger in conjunction with oblivion own robust grain then spring the forty-seventh year, of course, it was. Elements of all that actually existed and developed in a society that emerged spiritual danger was not an invention " . Simonov, in all probability, I would have definitely expressed, if it was known that Stalin said, in essence, from the words of Kapitza. But we can not keep silent about the other side of the case. Simonov said here that "robust", dictated by "necessity" aspiration then "ugly unfolded campaign, marked in some of its manifestations stamp of barbarism" (ibid.) This, as will be clear later extremely significant problem:
the need to being the country's "solutions" in the 1920's - early 1950's implemented more or less "barbaric)), and long since there are disputes about whether not too great was the" price "of certain "victories" ...
However, I will say again that is my task was only to clarify the historical "causes" of various "solutions" to refute clearly the dominant idea that all significant policy turns at the end of 1920's - the early 1950s were an expression of personal will of Stalin, not the will of history itself makes the leader to take this or that "the solution".
http://rusfact.ru/node/327 - V.Kozhinova quote from the book "Russia. XX-th Century "
In 1946, writer Alexander Popovski was summoned to the Central Committee Secretary Andrei Zhdanov." The party believes that the history, the teaching of science and technology in our country - in a very poor condition, - said Andrey. - People drop out of school and higher education institutions in the belief that local craftsmen and scientists for nothing are fit, they can achieve only a bad copy of Western colleagues. This adulation, this inferiority complex in front of the entire western must be overcome. Appropriate instructions universities, editorial offices and the Academy of Sciences have been given. You entrusted to plan a literary campaign to simply and effectively promoting the authentic and not distorted by western falsifiers and their domestic servants of the history of science and technology. Make a list of those plan to issue the relevant books, mark the authors. All publishers will receive appropriate instructions "
And another quote from Simon.
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Konstantin Simonov
- But there is a topic that is very important - said Stalin - which need to become interested writers. This is the theme of our Soviet patriotism. If you take our average intellectuals, scientific intellectuals, professors, doctors - said Stalin, building phrases that special, inherent intonation that I so clearly remember that, in my opinion, would virtually reproduce it - do not have enough foster a sense of Soviet patriotism. They are unjustified admiration for foreign culture. Everyone feels even minors are not wholly-owned, used to consider themselves in the position of the eternal student. It is a tradition backward, it comes from Peter. Peter had a good idea, but soon nalezlo too many Germans, it was a period of admiration for the Germans . Look, it was hard to breathe, it was difficult to work Lomonosov, for example. At first the Germans, then the French, it was admiration for foreigners - said Stalin suddenly slyly squinting, barely audible patter prorifmoval - assholes - smiled and again become a serious .
- A simple farmer will not go over trifles bow, will not break the cap, but such people do not have enough dignity, patriotism and understanding of the role played by Russia. The military also had such admiration. It has become less. Now there is, and now they are pulled up tails.
Stalin paused, smiled, and some elusive gesture showed how their tails military. Then he asked:
- Why are we worse? What's the matter? At this point it is necessary to hammer away for many years, ten years, it is necessary to grind the subject. It happens like this: a person does a great job and he does not understand - and he spoke about the professor, which has already been mentioned. - Here to take such a person, not the last person - again underlined repeated Stalin - and in front of a scoundrel, a foreigner, to a scientist who for three head below it, worships, losing its dignity. So it seems to me. We have to fight with the spirit of self-abasement in many of our intellectuals.
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- zinc poster series comes out in 40 years in the fight against kowtowing to the West. Now is perhaps even more relevant than in the USSR.
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The main problem is that what was clear to Stalin Simonov, Kapitsa and many other leaders of the Soviet era, now for many obvious and we continue to observe this servile presmykanie Perez west at various levels - the leaders, the officials, from intellectuals, cultural workers have. Painful logic - why do something if the West is best for everyone, is a serious obstacle to the development of the country. It is not about to cry all that we have not done very well, and in the West, everything is bad. Where we better - we must not be ashamed of its achievements and to gloss over them, and where are lagging behind, we must seek to correct the deficiencies, eliminate or at least reduce the gap, if necessary - to develop cutting-edge Western and creatively implement them. but if there is the political will and the necessary staff, this problem was solved in a much more difficult conditions for the country.
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October 15 14:15
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Regarding incendiary speeches Internet Ombudsman about the future of Russian programmers. Internet Ombudsman Russia Marinichev: If you want to harm the country, then you should invest in the training of IT-specialists in Russia
The Public Board of the Russian Federation yesterday discussed the prospects of import substitution technologies, closed due to Western sanctions, the newspaper "Kommersant". Those present, scientists have noted that the Russian science must move from defense to civilian projects. Internet Ombudsman under President Dmitry Marinichev disagreed, saying that the only way to defeat the United States - to impose Russian technology to other countries with "military presence" and "passive or active military actions in the territories of the US sphere of influence." Marinichev also said that cooking programmers in Russia makes no sense:
the US victory in the peaceful competition of the technology can not be admitted Presidential Ombudsman and gave examples of their industry. According to him, the program of the American companies "clearly ahead of any information product of our company - Kaspersky or someone else." This defender of the rights of internet business made a surprise announcement: "I honestly and openly say - if you want to harm the country, then you should invest in the training of IT-specialists in Russia. More harm to make impossible." Mr. Marinichev sure prepared for gosschet specialist "pray" to Western companies "and the first thing is to try to go from here to there." "I agree, preparation of programmers - bad job, - supported the center's director of strategic innovation," Rostelecom "Boris Glazkov.- general, programmers will be soon replace the computer, so that he wrote the code. "
Last Updated (10:30): Zmitser Marinichev after item sold on the Internet, he explained his position on Facebook:
Yes, especially nothing to comment. To understand the need to listen to the speech of the men of science to me. Actually the meaning of my speech was to scientists to determine what they want. Military confrontation with the United States, which clearly means isolationism. State order for science and import substitution all. But it also means the need to capture new markets. Because only a small uniquely Russian. But the capture of new markets under this option is a military confrontation with the United States. Active or passive matter. But just a confrontation. In this case, the training of IT specialists for the Russian Federation of course sabotage. Or the other way, which offers ASI. This definition Consumer markets of the future, training and resources and capture these markets. But then we have to be integrated into the global system. And we specialize in a certain niche. As a global center of excellence and a leader in this segment. We have the same discussion was the perspective of Russia against all. Well, about the war at all classics. [...] But in general of course interesting experience for me, when phrases out of context and turned into slogans are issued for absoloyutnuyu position.
Https://roem.ru/15-10-2015/210233/the-mo re-coders- -fewer-the coders / - zinc
http://pastebin.com/YnL0sGqh - full text Marinicheva - there is also a lot of revelations
PS. There is actually more clarification zaboristye than the first quote. According to the character, in a systemic conflict with the US, programmers do not have to cook - it will sabotage. Where, then, will take programmers if they are not prepared in a confrontational character explains. It should be recalled that the country was already in approximately similar conditions of strong technological gap with the leading capitalist countries. And then also said that to overcome this backwardness can not be stored, but the presence of the political will and the necessary personnel, this problem was solved in a much more difficult conditions for the country.
http://lib.rus.ec/i/65/349565/i_042.jpg
The external environment. We have come to power in the country, the technique of which is terribly backward. Along with a few big industrial units more or less based on the new technology, we have hundreds and thousands of factories and mills, machines that do not stand up to scrutiny from the point of view of modern achievements. Meanwhile, we have around him a number of capitalist countries with much more developed and modern industrial technology than our country. Look at the capitalist countries, and you will see that there is technique not only is, but just runs forward, surpassing the old forms of industrial technique. And it turns out that, on the one hand, we have in our country the most advanced Soviet system and the most advanced power throughout the world, the Soviet government, on the other hand, we have over backward equipment industry, a would represent the base of socialism and Soviet power. Do you think that you can achieve the final victory of socialism in our country, in the presence of this contradiction? What should be done to eliminate this contradiction? To do this, you must ensure that catch up with and surpass the advanced technology of the developed capitalist countries. We caught up with and surpassed the advanced capitalist countries in terms of establishing a new political order, the Soviet system. It's good. But this is not enough. In order to achieve the final victory of socialism in our country, we still have to catch up and overtake these countries in technical and economic terms. Either we will achieve it, or we zatrut. This is true not only in terms of the construction of socialism. This is also true in terms of upholding the independence of our country in conditions of capitalist encirclement. Unable to defend the independence of our country, not having sufficient industrial base for defense. It is not possible to create a manufacturing base, not having the highest technology in the industry.
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I have spoken in the report of our general line, about our perspective in the sense to turn our country from an agrarian into an industrial country. What is an agrarian country? Agrarian country, it is - a country that exports agricultural produce and imports equipment, but the equipment itself (cars, etc..) Does not produce or produces almost on their own. If we get stuck at the stage of development at which we have to import equipment and machinery, rather than producing them in-house, we can not be assured by transforming our country into an appendage of the capitalist system. That is why we need to stay the course for the development of our production means. ("The XIV Congress of the CPSU (b)" vol.7 str.354.)
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The authors of the Dawes Plan, we would like to restrict the production of, say, a calico, but that is not enough, because we want to produce not only cotton, but also the machines necessary for the production of cotton goods. They would like us to limit the production of, say, cars, but that is not enough, for we want to manufacture not only cars, but also the machines that produce automobiles. They want us to limit the production of, say, the shoes, but that is not enough, for we want to manufacture not only shoes, but also the machines that produce shoes. And so on. D., And so on. N. ("The XIV Congress of the CPSU (b)" vol.7 str.356.)
***
Some comrades think that industrialization development of any kind of industry. There are even some queer fellows who believe that even Ivan the Terrible, who once created certain embryonic industry was industrialist. If you go this route, then Peter the Great should be styled the first industrialist. This, of course, wrong. Not all industrial development is industrialization. The center of industrialization, its base is the development of heavy industry (fuel, metal and m. P.), In the development, in the end of production means, to develop their engineering. Industrialisation has the task not only to maintain our national economy as a whole to an increase in its share of the industry, but it still has the task, in this development to provide for our country surrounded by capitalist states, economic independence, keep her from becoming an appendage of world capitalism. A country of the dictatorship of the proletariat, which is in a capitalist environment, remain economically independent if she does not produce at home the means of production, if it gets stuck at the stage of development where it is necessary to keep the economy tethered to the capitalistically developed countries producing and exporting means of production. Getting stuck at this stage - to put ourselves in submission to global capital. ("The Economic Situation and policies of the party" vol.8 p.120.)
***
What does the industrialization of our country? That means to turn the country into an agrarian to industrial. This means to deliver and develop our industry on a new technical basis.
Nowhere else in the world had happened, a huge and backward agrarian country has been transformed into an industrial country without plundering the colonies, without plundering other countries, or without big loans and long-term loans from abroad. Recall the history of industrial development in England, Germany, America, and you'll see that this is so. Even America, the most powerful of all the capitalist countries had to be busy after the Civil War as much as 30-40 years in order to deliver its industry at the expense of loans and long-term loans from outside and robbery of adjacent states and islands.
Can we take this "tested" way? No, we can not, because the nature of the Soviet regime does not tolerate colonial robbery, and on large loans and long-term loans there is no reason to expect.
The old Russia, tsarist Russia, was to industrialization in a different way - by entering into enslaving loans and by granting enslaving concessions for the main branches of our industry . Did you know that almost all Donbass, more than half of Petersburg industry, Baku oil and a number of railways, not to mention the electricity industry in the hands of foreign capitalists. It was a way of industrialization at the expense of the peoples of the Soviet Union and against the interests of the working class. It is clear that we can not take this path not for that, we struggled with the yoke of capitalism, not that we have overthrown capitalism, in order later to voluntarily under the yoke of capitalism.
There is only one path, the path of their own savings, the path of the economy, the path of prudent housekeeping in order to accumulate the necessary resources for the industrialization of our country. There are no words, the task is difficult. But despite the difficulties, we already allow it. Yes, comrades, four years after the Civil War, we already accomplishing this task.
("Speech at a meeting of workers of the Stalin Railway Workshops October Road" v.9 p.172. )
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It is worth noting that in the speeches today "effective managers":
1 . There is a classic example of cognitive dissonance, the character is an obvious ideological Westerner for which is happening now in the relations between Russia and the United States as a sickle in the balls, so many years preparing to be built in the western world, and here the sanctions comparison with LIH, string bag of hot and cold wars, plus prospects long confrontation, which does not depend on what scientists believe there lobbyists or online business, it is already the de facto go and then you can either accept the fait accompli or deny reality. Marinichev also pretends that we are still at the stage of selection - in conflict or in conflict with the US, while the choice made long ago, and not even the Russian Federation.
2. Well and certainly the worst statement about the quality of Russian special software by the example of Kaspersky. Though I use Avast but Kaspersky is among many friends and in general the quality of it is unlikely to greatly inferior to the leaders of anti-virus software market. Yandex just recently made its inclusion in the search with Windows 10 on the territory of the Russian Federation. There are excellent video and audio players produced domestically. That is quite competitive foods are available, including in the consumer segment. Of course, the US is one of the leaders in this field and ahead of Russia, but there is that the situation is lagging, not a black and white picture - there is an excellent software, and we have all the crap. And about the backlog, it is worth noting that the critical backlog of the USSR from the United States in computer technology occurred at a time when the creation of its technologies have moved to western copying.
3. Regarding crying on the topic - programmers leave. Marinichev recognizes that the country is unable to create suitable conditions for the retention of good young programmers and provide them with the prospects of working in the country. A great reason to do nothing. The character does not even admit the thought that here it is possible to change something. This is the question of the brain drain. It would seem to such positions must appoint people who aspire to make a difference, and not those who simply konstantiruyut that shit and do something useless.
4. Well Glazkov with his revelations about writing computer code is also "pleased." If your computer ever could across the country to replace the entire market of programmers, it is already possible to prepare programmers do not, the computer is ever so appears. This protection Chewbacca some. This makes no sense. To be honest, after such revelations bit anxious for domestic programmers.
In general, it is difficult here not to remember the old debate on the topic of "kowtowing" to the West.
On the "kowtowing" to the West ...
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And yet another "solution" of Stalin. In 1947, he put forward the task of combating "kowtowing" to the West, though ponachaly it was not so much about ideology literally true sense, as the situation of natural and technical sciences. One expression of this new policy was Stalin's speech to the leaders of the Writers Union of 13 May 1947, which recorded (on a memory the next day, that is, apparently, quite accurately) Konstantin Simonov: "But there is a topic that is very important - said Stalin - which need to eainteresovalis writers ... If you take our average intellectuals, scientific intellectuals, professors ... they have an unjustified admiration for foreign culture. Everyone feels even minors are not wholly-owned, used to consider themselves in the position eternal disciples ... Why are we worse? What is it? It happens like this: a person does a great job and he does not understand ... ... We have to fight with the spirit of self-abasement ... "etc.
This was because it It was not about ideology, but about science, fundamentally new formulation of the question; Before the war, in 1930, Stalin has repeatedly stated unequivocally just need to "apprenticeship" of the West, primarily the United States: "We would like people to science and technology in America were our teachers ... and we are their students "21.
The new" designation "of Stalin during his lifetime was perceived as further evidence of his personal" wisdom ", and later - as a manifestation of it - again lichnoy- stupid nuisance that caused severe damage to the development of science. However, there is every reason to believe it was Stalin's "instruction" was not the result of his own thoughts: it was caused by a letter, which in the previous year, in 1946 to Stalin one of the most prominent scientists of the time Kapitsa. By sending his manuscript existing before the revolution writer and historian of science and technology L.I.Gumilevskogo (1890- 1976) "Russian engineers," Kapitza informed that the book was created at his suggestion: "I ... he said that it would be necessary to write ... our talents in the art, which are many, but we know little. He did it, and you get ... a picture of our advanced technology for many centuries. We are, apparently, a little imagine what a great well of creative talent has always been in our engineering ... we usually underestimated and overestimated its foreign.
"And" one of the main domestic shortcomings, "according to the Kapitza thought -" and an underestimation of its reassessment of the foreign forces. After all, excessive modesty - is an even greater disadvantage than overconfidence. In order to secure the victory (in the war - VK) and raise our cultural influence abroad must be aware of our creative strength and capabilities. Clearly we felt that now we have to power way to raise our own original technique successfully ... we can do it only when we believe in the talent of our engineers and scientists ... when we finally realize that the creative potential of our people no less, and even more than the others .. . That this is so, apparently, is proved by the fact that after all these centuries no one was unable to swallow ".
The letter Kapitsa made a very strong impression on Stalin, as is clear from the following. Kapitsa even considered it his duty to share different ideas with Stalin (as well as other senior leaders of the country). Since 1936 he constantly sent his letters to Stalin; in 1945 alone, Stalin received from him at least five letters (if we have in mind only known to have been published. However, Kapitsa never received a reply, and only after the above letter Stalin wrote to him (in the next letter thanking the leader Petr Leonidovich: "Thank you for your nice letter, I was very glad it"): "Comrade. Kapitsa All received your letters. The letters are many instructive books ... As L.Gumilevskogo" Russian engineers, "then it is very interesting and will be published in the near future "(the book was published already beginning in 1947).
A comparison of the cited letter Kapitza with recorded Simonov words of Stalin, facing the figures piteratury, it is clear that they are close even textually. And one can hardly challenge that the next "solution" of Stalin, which had diverse implications, based on this letter. As already noted, Stalin, speaking of "unjustified admiration" to the West, he saw the mood ((average of "scientific intelligentsia," Professor "(but not , say academics), in which refinement naturally see the manifestation of the fact that the "highest)) scientific intelligentsia in the face of the academician (1939) Kapitza just opened it, Stalin's eyes to" one of the main "shortcomings in the field of science. A prominent scientists, have long paid great and passionate attention to the general state of Russian science, expressed in his letter to Stalin, again, not some personal wish, but awareness of the urgent needs in life sciences in general. And for all possible reservations taken in 1947-m course has led to the fact that in 1954 the Soviet Union began to work the world's first nuclear power plant, and in 1957 launched the world's first artificial satellite.
Someone might argue that the great scientific Russian technical achievements have been made possible not because of the above "decision", and in spite of it. However, in a letter to Stalin Kapitza given an accurate analysis of the situation, based on the history of Russian engineering idea, outlined in the book L.I.Gumilevskogo: "From the book - concludes Kapitsa, - is clear:
1) A large number of the largest engineering undertakings infancy with us.
2) We are almost never able to develop them (except in the field of construction).
3) It is often the cause of non-innovation that we usually underestimated and overestimated its foreign "(s.247). For example, A.F.Mozhaysky in 1881 constructed the prototype of the aircraft, and B.L.Rozing in 1911 conducted the first laboratory telecast, but the practical implementation of these discoveries occurred later in the United States ...
And the Russian leadership in the establishment - 1954 - Nuclear power plant in Obninsk and flight - in 1957-m - satellite (which introduced this Russian word in all languages) was in fact a completely new phenomenon for Russia, thirst and which gave rise to a letter Kapitza Stalin.
Therefore, in the "solution" that is put forward Kapitsa and, to use a fashionable now a word, he announced Stalin put it, if you will, the will of history, not self-will of the leader.
Curiously, Konstantin Simonov, telling the thirty-odd years, in 1979, and moreover, not relying on the publication of the story (which took over a dozen years) about Stalin's speech, found it necessary to declare that "the very idea of the need to deal with self-deprecation, self-awareness is not one hundred percent, unjustified worship of a stranger in conjunction with oblivion own robust grain then spring the forty-seventh year, of course, it was. Elements of all that actually existed and developed in a society that emerged spiritual danger was not an invention " . Simonov, in all probability, I would have definitely expressed, if it was known that Stalin said, in essence, from the words of Kapitza. But we can not keep silent about the other side of the case. Simonov said here that "robust", dictated by "necessity" aspiration then "ugly unfolded campaign, marked in some of its manifestations stamp of barbarism" (ibid.) This, as will be clear later extremely significant problem:
the need to being the country's "solutions" in the 1920's - early 1950's implemented more or less "barbaric)), and long since there are disputes about whether not too great was the" price "of certain "victories" ...
However, I will say again that is my task was only to clarify the historical "causes" of various "solutions" to refute clearly the dominant idea that all significant policy turns at the end of 1920's - the early 1950s were an expression of personal will of Stalin, not the will of history itself makes the leader to take this or that "the solution".
http://rusfact.ru/node/327 - V.Kozhinova quote from the book "Russia. XX-th Century "
In 1946, writer Alexander Popovski was summoned to the Central Committee Secretary Andrei Zhdanov." The party believes that the history, the teaching of science and technology in our country - in a very poor condition, - said Andrey. - People drop out of school and higher education institutions in the belief that local craftsmen and scientists for nothing are fit, they can achieve only a bad copy of Western colleagues. This adulation, this inferiority complex in front of the entire western must be overcome. Appropriate instructions universities, editorial offices and the Academy of Sciences have been given. You entrusted to plan a literary campaign to simply and effectively promoting the authentic and not distorted by western falsifiers and their domestic servants of the history of science and technology. Make a list of those plan to issue the relevant books, mark the authors. All publishers will receive appropriate instructions "
And another quote from Simon.
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- But there is a topic that is very important - said Stalin - which need to become interested writers. This is the theme of our Soviet patriotism. If you take our average intellectuals, scientific intellectuals, professors, doctors - said Stalin, building phrases that special, inherent intonation that I so clearly remember that, in my opinion, would virtually reproduce it - do not have enough foster a sense of Soviet patriotism. They are unjustified admiration for foreign culture. Everyone feels even minors are not wholly-owned, used to consider themselves in the position of the eternal student. It is a tradition backward, it comes from Peter. Peter had a good idea, but soon nalezlo too many Germans, it was a period of admiration for the Germans . Look, it was hard to breathe, it was difficult to work Lomonosov, for example. At first the Germans, then the French, it was admiration for foreigners - said Stalin suddenly slyly squinting, barely audible patter prorifmoval - assholes - smiled and again become a serious .
- A simple farmer will not go over trifles bow, will not break the cap, but such people do not have enough dignity, patriotism and understanding of the role played by Russia. The military also had such admiration. It has become less. Now there is, and now they are pulled up tails.
Stalin paused, smiled, and some elusive gesture showed how their tails military. Then he asked:
- Why are we worse? What's the matter? At this point it is necessary to hammer away for many years, ten years, it is necessary to grind the subject. It happens like this: a person does a great job and he does not understand - and he spoke about the professor, which has already been mentioned. - Here to take such a person, not the last person - again underlined repeated Stalin - and in front of a scoundrel, a foreigner, to a scientist who for three head below it, worships, losing its dignity. So it seems to me. We have to fight with the spirit of self-abasement in many of our intellectuals.
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- zinc poster series comes out in 40 years in the fight against kowtowing to the West. Now is perhaps even more relevant than in the USSR.
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The main problem is that what was clear to Stalin Simonov, Kapitsa and many other leaders of the Soviet era, now for many obvious and we continue to observe this servile presmykanie Perez west at various levels - the leaders, the officials, from intellectuals, cultural workers have. Painful logic - why do something if the West is best for everyone, is a serious obstacle to the development of the country. It is not about to cry all that we have not done very well, and in the West, everything is bad. Where we better - we must not be ashamed of its achievements and to gloss over them, and where are lagging behind, we must seek to correct the deficiencies, eliminate or at least reduce the gap, if necessary - to develop cutting-edge Western and creatively implement them. but if there is the political will and the necessary staff, this problem was solved in a much more difficult conditions for the country.
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