PraxMan
06-04-2008, 10:39 AM
Cadman tape a phony, Tories say
Globe and Mail Update
June 4, 2008 at 12:36 PM EDT
OTTAWA The Conservatives re-opened the so-called Cadman affair today with a charge that an audiotape of Prime Minister Stephen Harper talking about the issue had been doctored although they would not say whether edits of the tape altered the meaning of Mr. Harper's comments.
At a press conference Wednesday, Conservative MP James Moore presented opinions from two audio experts who concluded that the 2005 tape of Mr. Harper, recorded by B.C. author Tom Zytaruk, had been altered.
The tape has been doctored, including the insertion of a fabricated sound-bite, Mr. Moore told reporters.
<snip>
Experts concluded that the beginning of the tape, provided to Mr. Harper's lawyers by Mr. Zytaruk, was edited to obscure words or sounds, and that the tape stopped in mid-sentence just after he thanked Mr. Harper. But they also found an edit in the middle, which audio analyst Tom Owen of Owl Investigations Inc. concluded was not caused by stopping and re-starting the tape.
[link:www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080604.wcadman0604/BNStory/National/home|Globe and Mail]
Hmmm...expert?
Anytime they want to sue the original reporter, I'm all ears to their um experts...
CIA Tape Analysis
MORAWSKI: In our first report, you heard that al Qaeda often releases taped messages through the media. There's concern that such tapes may help terrorists spread their message-- or even give secret signals to operatives. But David Ensor explains how those same messages can work against the terrorists, helping intelligence officials try to track them down.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
TOM OWEN, AUDIO ANALYST: The voice on this audiotape -- definitely Osama bin Laden.
DAVID ENSOR, CNN REPORTER: In his New Jersey home, acoustic expert Tom Owen identifies voices. But to learn more, he focuses on the moments when Bin Laden is NOT speaking.
OWEN: Let's just take a very small section where he hesitates for a second, and let's see what we can hear in there. There is something in the background. Can't really tell what it is.
ENSOR: Tom Owen is one of the nation's top sound analysts--using spectrographic equipment--like that used by the CIA, the FBI and others--to identify voices. Listening for clues on a recent Bin Laden tape, right away, Owen runs into something. You hear that noise in the background? It sounds like metal scraping metal. It's to eliminate noises other than the voice, but it's a little overused.
OWEN: You hear that noise in the background? It sounds like metal scraping metal. It's to eliminate noises other than the voice, but it's a little overused.
ENSOR: Visually, this is such a flat band of sound. It's been compressed. So you think they may have compressed this--taken off the highs and lows--to make it harder to draw any clues out of the tape as to where he's hiding.
OWEN: Right.
ENSOR: Do you think it's conceivable that a clue off of an audiotape might lead U.S. Intelligence to Osama bin laden one day?
OWEN: Possible, it's possible. It wouldn't be the first time. When they were doing the mob cases in New York, one of the ways that they were finding out where certain people were and where certain gangsters were conducting operations is because they heard the airplanes overhead.
ENSOR: And in fact, he does find a tantalizing clue on this tape:
OWEN: Yeah right through here, right through here, it almost sounds like there's a (imitates noise of rising motor) Kind of thing going on.
ENSOR: Yeah. Could be an engine noise: that would say something about bin Laden's hiding place. When there are pictures to look at, there is much more to analyze--though it's not as easy as it looks on TV:
[link:www.cnn.com/2006/EDUCATION/06/13/transcript.wed/|CNN Student News]
So one can get an idea from where Harper's Tories are getting their [link:nakedshorts.typepad.com/nakedshorts/2007/06/mans-rose-mary-.html|expert] [link:www.popsci.com/scitech/article/2003-02/graphing-voice-terror|opinion] from...
A guy that does analysis on .wav format files and stuff recorded off of TV from ABC News...
Globe and Mail Update
June 4, 2008 at 12:36 PM EDT
OTTAWA The Conservatives re-opened the so-called Cadman affair today with a charge that an audiotape of Prime Minister Stephen Harper talking about the issue had been doctored although they would not say whether edits of the tape altered the meaning of Mr. Harper's comments.
At a press conference Wednesday, Conservative MP James Moore presented opinions from two audio experts who concluded that the 2005 tape of Mr. Harper, recorded by B.C. author Tom Zytaruk, had been altered.
The tape has been doctored, including the insertion of a fabricated sound-bite, Mr. Moore told reporters.
<snip>
Experts concluded that the beginning of the tape, provided to Mr. Harper's lawyers by Mr. Zytaruk, was edited to obscure words or sounds, and that the tape stopped in mid-sentence just after he thanked Mr. Harper. But they also found an edit in the middle, which audio analyst Tom Owen of Owl Investigations Inc. concluded was not caused by stopping and re-starting the tape.
[link:www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080604.wcadman0604/BNStory/National/home|Globe and Mail]
Hmmm...expert?
Anytime they want to sue the original reporter, I'm all ears to their um experts...
CIA Tape Analysis
MORAWSKI: In our first report, you heard that al Qaeda often releases taped messages through the media. There's concern that such tapes may help terrorists spread their message-- or even give secret signals to operatives. But David Ensor explains how those same messages can work against the terrorists, helping intelligence officials try to track them down.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
TOM OWEN, AUDIO ANALYST: The voice on this audiotape -- definitely Osama bin Laden.
DAVID ENSOR, CNN REPORTER: In his New Jersey home, acoustic expert Tom Owen identifies voices. But to learn more, he focuses on the moments when Bin Laden is NOT speaking.
OWEN: Let's just take a very small section where he hesitates for a second, and let's see what we can hear in there. There is something in the background. Can't really tell what it is.
ENSOR: Tom Owen is one of the nation's top sound analysts--using spectrographic equipment--like that used by the CIA, the FBI and others--to identify voices. Listening for clues on a recent Bin Laden tape, right away, Owen runs into something. You hear that noise in the background? It sounds like metal scraping metal. It's to eliminate noises other than the voice, but it's a little overused.
OWEN: You hear that noise in the background? It sounds like metal scraping metal. It's to eliminate noises other than the voice, but it's a little overused.
ENSOR: Visually, this is such a flat band of sound. It's been compressed. So you think they may have compressed this--taken off the highs and lows--to make it harder to draw any clues out of the tape as to where he's hiding.
OWEN: Right.
ENSOR: Do you think it's conceivable that a clue off of an audiotape might lead U.S. Intelligence to Osama bin laden one day?
OWEN: Possible, it's possible. It wouldn't be the first time. When they were doing the mob cases in New York, one of the ways that they were finding out where certain people were and where certain gangsters were conducting operations is because they heard the airplanes overhead.
ENSOR: And in fact, he does find a tantalizing clue on this tape:
OWEN: Yeah right through here, right through here, it almost sounds like there's a (imitates noise of rising motor) Kind of thing going on.
ENSOR: Yeah. Could be an engine noise: that would say something about bin Laden's hiding place. When there are pictures to look at, there is much more to analyze--though it's not as easy as it looks on TV:
[link:www.cnn.com/2006/EDUCATION/06/13/transcript.wed/|CNN Student News]
So one can get an idea from where Harper's Tories are getting their [link:nakedshorts.typepad.com/nakedshorts/2007/06/mans-rose-mary-.html|expert] [link:www.popsci.com/scitech/article/2003-02/graphing-voice-terror|opinion] from...
A guy that does analysis on .wav format files and stuff recorded off of TV from ABC News...