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ellenr
05-16-2008, 11:10 AM
(I haven't seen much about this - anybody else see this?)

On May 7th, five days before the deadly quake struck, a seismologist from Wuhan city posted a notice on the Internet predicting that an earthquake would strike on May 12th.

"According to information I have in hand, and exchanges that I have had with some foreign colleagues, I predict China will have an earthquake on May 12, 2008. The approximate location will be in the middle of Sichuan and Hubei, though all China may feel the tremors," read the notice.

The man went on to note that his predictions could not be announced publicly because it could cause "panic."

Even before the notice was posted, rumors were spreading in Sichuan province of a potential earthquake. Sichuan residents apparently made calls to the local Earthquake Preparedness and Disaster Reduction office of the Provincial Seismological Bureau to verify whether or not the rumors were true.

The bureau denied the possibility of a quake, and on May 9th, a notice was published on the local government Web site dismissed the earthquake rumors. The notice read in part:

On May 3, the Earthquake Preparedness and Disaster Reduction of the Seismological Bureau of Ahazhou received calls to inquire whether the rumors were true that Suomo Town, Maerkong County [Sichuan province] was going to have a major earthquake and that village officials advised villagers to stay outdoors.

After receiving the calls, the Bureau immediately asked the Earthquake Preparedness and Disaster Reduction of the Seismological Bureau of Maerkong County to investigate the source of the rumor, to dispel it, to widely explain the actual situation, and to prevent the rumor from spreading further.

Three days later, after the earthquake struck, the notice was deleted. A screenshot of the notice can be seen on the Epoch Times Web site.

Some Chinese netizens have begun openly speculating that the regime deliberately concealed news of the earthquake in spite of evidence.

"Even when there were already signs indicating an earthquake, the Sichuan Seismological Bureau still suppressed and failed to report the information, completely disregarding people's lives," wrote one Internet user who claimed to have a relative working in the Provincial Seismological Bureau. "My uncle called me some time ago and told me about the earthquake warning signs, but the Bureau didn't allow them to release the information and stressed the need to ensure stability before the Olympics."


http://prisonplanet.com/articles/may2008/140508Chinese.htm

mom person
05-18-2008, 06:52 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecLwVgvvTvU
go to about 4:43
Bad source --- La Rouch.

But the strange aroura borealis phenomena prior to the earthquake during broad daylight is quite remarkable and was caught on video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lp-9vi_Ck10&feature=related

Background info on HAARP:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnRPZOUVhJ4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8LMvqT7Hjw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkLTzesBxGE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWvSbOnwnQ8&feature=related
Tinfoil ?:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnRPZOUVhJ4&feature=related

and conversation here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3304026

DoYouEverWonder
05-18-2008, 09:09 AM
would be the more likely cause of an increase in seismic activity.

Weird lights and animal behavior is something that has been reported in association with earthquakes way before HAARP was even a twinkle in a pork barrel politician's eye.

mom person
05-18-2008, 06:41 PM
of light phenomena that was filmed just before the quake. Do you happen to know of any source I could go to to find out more about pre-quake light events? I would appreciate it. Thanks.

DoYouEverWonder
05-18-2008, 07:52 PM
I had a friend back in college who was living in LA. He got to see them during one of their bigger earthquakes.

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Earthquakes have long been accompanied by the appearance of "bright, luminescent, multicoloured sky glows" (Wagner, 1978) that can take place any time before, during, or after the seismological event. They've been recorded throughout history, but modern science has only started to take them seriously since the photographs of the Matsushiro earthquake lights taken by Yutaka Yasui between 1965 and 1967 (Derr, 2005). There have since been extensive observations of several events, but the phenomenon currently remains unexplained.

http://inamidst.com/lights/earthquake

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Q: What are earthquake lights? Are they real?

A: Observations of earthquake lights (EQL), mostly white to bluish flashes or glows lasting several seconds associated with moderate to large earthquakes, have been reported infrequently by observers since ancient times. It wasn't until the phenomenon was captured in photographs, taken during the Matsushiro earthquake swarm in Japan between 1965 and 1967, that the seismological community acknowledged their occurrence. A satisfactory theory to explain EQL, however, has been elusive and is still not agreed upon. Proposed mechanisms include piezoelectricity, frictional heating, exoelectron emissions, sonoluminescence, phosphine gas emissions, and fluid injection (electrokinetics), but the most recent theory suggests that EQL are caused by separation of positive hole charge carriers that turn rocks momentarily into p-type semiconductors (first and second references below).

The most extensive modern study of EQL observations comes from the Saguenay, Quebec, earthquakes of 1988-1989 (third reference below). At least 46 well-documented reports span the time from three weeks before the main shock to two months after. The general categories of observations include: (1) seismic lightning, (2) atmospheric luminous bands, (3) globular incandescent masses, (4) fire tongues, (5) seismic flames, and a newly-recognized category, (6) coronal or point discharges. The latter observations, resulting from one observer being in the right place at the time of the main shock, strongly support the positive hole theory.

Observations of earthquake lights during the 1995 M6.9 Kobe, Japan earthquake were documented in the fourth of the references below. There were 23 sightings within 50 km of the epicenter of a white, blue, or orange light all with an upper height of 200 meters and a linear dimension of 1 to 8 km. The types of phosphorescent phenomena were classified as: lightening with zig-zag lines, swelling shield-shaped sources, upward-extending fan-shaped sources, or a belt of lights (including arc-shaped sources).

While EQL sightings are often given more exotic labels, they are a recognized geophysical phenomenon that may one day contribute to the possibility of forecasting earthquakes in the few locations where they occur.

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/learning/faq.php?categoryID=8&faqID=103

DulceDecorum
05-18-2008, 08:53 PM
but [link:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhang_Heng#Zhang.27s_seismometer|the Chinese have long been able to predict earthquakes.]

Zhang Heng was the leading scientist of the Eastern Han period (25-220). In 132, he built the world's first seismograph. The original of the device has long been lost, but based on the volume on Zhang Heng in the History of the Later Han Dynasty and archaeological research findings, Mr. Wang Zhenduo reconstructed Zhang Heng's seismograph in 1951.
The seismograph looked like a huge wine jar with a diameter of 1.9 meters. Eight dragon figures representing the eight directions (east, west, north, south, northeast, northwest, southeast and southwest) were arranged on the outside of the jar. In the mouth of each dragon was a small bronze ball, and underneath each dragon's head was a toad with its mouth gaping upwards. In the center of the seismograph was a sort of pendulum, surrounding which were eight groups of lever mechanisms distributed in the eight directions and connected to the mouths of the dragons. If a tremor occurred in any direction and seismic waves were transmitted to the seismograph, the pendulum would incline to one direction and trigger a lever in the dragon's head. The dragon would then open its mouth, and release its bronze ball, which would fall into the mouth of the toad underneath. Thus, the direction in which the earthquake had occurred was known. Making clever use of the mechanical theory of inertia, the seismograph had a high degree of sensitivity. According to the History of the Later Han Dynasty, one day in 138 the dragon in the west direction spit out its bronze ball, but people did not feel any tremor. Several days later, however, a horseman galloped to the capital, bringing the news that an earthquake had struck Longxi, in western Gansu Province, some 500 kilometers from the capital city of Luoyang. This anecdote is evidence that the seismograph was not only very sensitive, but also accurate.
Zhang Heng's seismograph was 1,700 years earlier than similar devices built in Europe, demonstrating ancient China's advanced level in earthquake studies.
http://english.hanban.edu.cn/e-gudai/4.htm

... about those toads ...


13/05/2008 > CHINA
Two days before the quake thousands of toads suddenly decided to move across a bridge in Taizhou, a town in the Jiangsu province (see photos). Chinese web users are wondering why the local authorities didn't relate the event to the imminence of an earthquake, and why scientists didn't take notice of the bizarre disappearance of a lake in Enshi, in the Hubei province, on April 26 (see photos).
http://observers.france24.com/en/content/20080513-toads-predict-earthquake-dead-china

May 15, 2008
Many people are now calling the Chinese Earthquake Test Centers “useless”, as they were unable to even detect the earthquake before it happened. When they finally announced the earthquake had occurred, it was 12 minutes after the disaster, and 2 minutes after the US had announced a large earthquake in China.
As for the Frogs and their omen, Chinese scientists stated animals have much better sense than human on detecting the natural disasters like this.
http://icantseeyou.typepad.com/my_weblog/2008/05/frogs-predicted.html

... meanwhile, back in California ...
http://www.kget.com/mostpopular/story.aspx?content_id=7cc4e93f-cd84-434d-a5c2-e07b632bf275


Global Disaster Watch is a site worth visiting on a regular basis.
http://home.att.net/~thehessians/disasterwatch.html

mom person
05-19-2008, 09:08 AM
I am relieved.

PraxMan
05-20-2008, 12:54 PM
what about the 'weird' animal behavior!!

Like the very few animals killed in tsunami because they are smarter than people and can STILL read their environment, perhaps?

Cows don't just lay down before a rain for nothing?
It's HAARP!!

I agree with you... I've read atmospheric light phenom accompanying earthquakes for years.

It does strike me that, putting aside that this region of China has earthquakes, as well as massive and undisclosed industrial projects, I'll assume it was an earthquake.

The part I don't see is IF the US or anyone else was inducing earthquakes, ripping open a plasma hole above their airspace (no matter how high) would attract a lot of attention -- however, sizing the region up, importing operatives that got lost in all of the massive industrial work around the Three Gorges Project, bringing equipment and tools, placing a series of near-nukes in any number of mine shafts selected because of their proxmity to faults, might be more easily accomplished.

If the blasts were record just prior to seismic activity, the Chinese would STILL have an uphill battle proving the allegation to a world audience -- especially Americans. Moreover, the Chinese would also be admitting to their own people that 'foreign' agents had compromised the country and this would set off a patriotic feeding frenzy that the hardliners, waiting in the wings, would take advantage of and usurp the current moderates.

So it's an earthquake

Could be like 911 or Katrina -- inside job to 'reposition' the region and country for a coming war. Land and resources are far more valuable than the people walking above it.

Disaster Capitalism only works IF there is a disaster.