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Two Americas
11-07-2009, 09:06 AM
Hard to keep all of the conspiracy theories straight, or tell one from the other.

I think we should leave this stuff to the extreme right wingers. They are so good at it.

Will We Wake Up Now, Or Wait Until The MOURNING?

'NONE DARE CALL IT TREASON: 25 YEARS LATER' is John Stormer's 1990 update of his original classic which documents Communist infiltration of the United States government as well as many other public opinion-molding sectors of American life. Mr. Stormer conclusively shows how our long-cherished American Principles have been subverted by Communistic methodology which utilizes the press, court rulings, the labor movements, the education system, tax-exempt foundation grants, government influence, and (believe it or not) even religious publications to exert pressure from above and below in order to reconfigure our framework and adapt existing structures to accomodate Socialistic goals.

The person who tells you that this is all just paranoid delusion and innuendo unsupported by any verifiable documentation is DELIBERATELY misleading you! 'NONE DARE CALL IT TREASON: 25 YEARS LATER' is one of the most thoroughly researched books I have ever encountered during my lifelong reading addiction! The exhaustive reference section spans a full 25 pages of minuscule print that cites countless books, textbooks, articles, Congressional records, administrative reports, official bulletins, treaty protocols, sworn testimony from government hearings, and most significantly, myriad Communist publications and reviews. It's not that there is just a "mountain of evidence" to support every one of Stormer's charges - that mountain is the size of Everest!

Let me assure you that the scenario presented in this magnificent masterpiece of research is as relevant to us today as the day it was first published - this despite the "appearance" of Communism's collapse in the Soviet Union. (You should know that this democratic "false front" and even the demolition of the Berlin Wall was foretold as far back as 1982 by the top-level KGB defector, Anatoliy Golitsyn in his book, 'NEW LIES FOR OLD.' This book is still in print and so you can verify for yourself his accuracy in revealing the Communist ploy years in advance.)

Why has the United States government made a pretense of fighting Communism all the while giving aid to Socialist States; securing their infrastructure and feeding their people at American tax-payer expense? As Stormer so accurately points out on page 66: "EVERY COMMUNIST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD LITERALLY HAS A 'MADE IN THE USA' STAMP."

Think about this: Isn't just the idea that the world's great superpower could not manage to emerge victorious from the "police actions" in Korea and Vietnam simply ridiculous on its face? "Winning" was never the objective of our "leaders", and Stormer proves this beyond all doubt! Reading this book for the first time years ago and thinking about all of our service men killed overseas and their families torn apart and scarred forever, there were many times that I slammed it down in rage - really not sure that I could bear to read on. Although it's a moot point for me, if I had a son who was contemplating enlisting in the armed forces (or facing conscription), I would consider it my obligation as a responsible parent, to insist that he read John Stormer's book before making any decision. What I would give to have been able to get this book into the hands of Pat Tillman before he sacrificed his NFL career and then his life in Afghanistan! God bless and keep that noble man.

You can be sure that there are many individuals out there who DO NOT want you to read 'NONE DARE CALL IT TREASON: 25 YEARS LATER.' They are hoping that the American People will continue to sit lobotomized before the boob tube and let sleeping dogs lie. Except these dogs aren't really asleep; It is we who snooze while they plot our demise! If a self-professed Communist was to frantically insist that "Nobody should read this book!....Do not buy this book!" then that is all the confirmation that you should need in order to ascertain that, in fact, EVERYBODY should read this book, and that YOU should buy this book. I urge you to do that NOW!

To summarize: NONE DARE CALL IT TREASON: 25 YEARS LATER is the heartbreaking and nauseating truth about our government's love affair with Communism. For those who lost loved ones in the Korean or Vietnam "police actions" this book will be particularly disturbing. Without a trace of hyperbole I tell you that Five Stars does not come remotely close to doing justice to the merits of this great work. It is of nearly singular distinction and unquestionably one of the most important books I have ever read. 'NONE DARE CALL IT TREASON: 25 YEARS LATER' would still be standing if I was forced to clear my bookshelves of every political tome save three. A highlighted and well-worn copy of it should be found in the personal library of virtually EVERY true American patriot....right alongside G. Edward Griffin's, 'THE CREATURE FROM JEKYLL ISLAND.' People, we had better wake up pretty darn quick otherwise the MOURNING will soon be upon us!

http://www.amazon.com/None-Dare-Call-Treason-Years/dp/0914053108

starry messenger
11-07-2009, 10:23 AM
For some reason people seem to need to believe there is a hidden code to life and events. I'm not sure what the motivation is. I got interested in crank literature before I ever paid attention to politics. I'm not even sure the fascination with these strange "exposes" even has anything to do with politics...it's just another vehicle for fanciful confirmation bias.

Two Americas
11-07-2009, 02:02 PM
But the strange "exposes" are always presented as political - as the "real answer" that supposedly makes all other political thinking irrelevant or useless.

The obsession with the secret code, the arcane explanation, carries with it an unspoken assumption - that things would be fine were it not for the infiltrators, or traitors, or criminals, or secret cabal. This acts to support the existing power structure and social arrangements.

starry messenger
11-07-2009, 03:26 PM
I hadn't considered that angle. Do you think people are aware that they are supporting the existing power structure when they are engaging in perpetuating these conspiracies?

Two Americas
11-07-2009, 04:25 PM
They think they are opposing the "PTB." Then, should you challenge the validity of the conspiracy theory in even the slightest way, you are immediately accused of being CIA or AIPAC or Monsanto or whatever.

"Confirmation bias" - a tendency to search for, interpret or remember information in a way that confirms preconceptions - is exactly right, which is why all sorts of nationalism and bigotry lurk in the conspiracy theories.

One preconception is that America was once good, and then something odd and aberrant happened (JFK was killed, Israel hijacked our government, the secret government seized control of everything, Bushco took down the twin towers) to pollute, corrupt, taint, or derail America the beautiful, noble and virtuous.

By the way, all of these conspiracy theories are very much associated with suburban white folks, mostly WASPs, and mostly men, desperate to keep related to that from being examined, yet unable to claim that all is well with the world. Precluded from overt scapegoating of Jews or people of color by social convention lest they discredit themselves, and with the blaming of communists out of fashion since the fall of the Soviet Union, more and more bizarre explanations for what went wrong need to be invented. The truthers strongly identify with the ruling class, and only have a problem with what they see as usurpers, a few bad apples in the bunch, the "evil" ones in the ruling class. They want to save the ruling class, by exposing and rooting out the bad elements who "hijacked" it.

Nothing fundamental or profound about the US is challenged, therefore, and so bigotry, racism, homophobia, anti-Semitism, nationalism and Capitalism are all part of that "good America" that once existed or could exist again if "we" were back in power.

starry messenger
11-07-2009, 05:28 PM
Living in the Bay Area all of my life, everybody and his dog has a theory. It seems to have spread out and infected other communities rather than staying isolated to WASPs, but I know what you are saying. You need time and leisure to put together some of these elaborate constructions.

Truthers have been getting away with it in the Dems because trutherism looked like criticism of Bush. Now that the Dems are in the seat, it will be interesting to see what new weirdness they come up with. The cognitive dissidence that is going to occur when nothing changes much at all is going to be staggering.

blindpig
11-07-2009, 06:58 PM
By the time Obama announces his troop escalation and the final health care fiasco is pronounced it's gonna be a civil war over there.

starry messenger
11-07-2009, 07:55 PM
Today was brutal and it's only going to get worse. It's a civil war that will ultimately be decided by the owners of the site. They've already TS'd nearly all of the activist gay members who criticized. Now the same gatekeepers who painted the gay community in a bad light are coming for the leftists. Will the light finally dawn that the critics are not the problem?

chlamor
11-10-2009, 08:10 AM
Obama's Afghan Plan: About 40K More Troops

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/11/09/world/main5592551.shtml