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chlamor
01-30-2010, 12:55 PM
Michael Hureaux Perez said:
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Where the Obama thing has been interesting is exactly where jsf was pegging it earlier There's nothing new in Obamian politics, we've known them in the black community for years, whether it was Coleman Young in Detroit, or Norm Rice in Seattle, or Maynard Jackson in Atlanta, or Dave Dinkins in New York City, or Douglas Wilder in Virginia, or Hatcher in Newark, or Goode in Philadelphia, etc. The key difference is that as each of these black politicians and their black professional followers have become more successful within the so-called democratic party, and as that institution has lurched further to the right, the momentum generated by the traditions upheld by the DuBois, Robesons, the Malcolms and the Kings, have been drowned out by the opportunists and the grandstanders. Nothing new here. Obama is the first major output of the black professional political machine, a creature of the sort of avaricious nonsense that was heard from quite loudly at the Gary conference in 1972. At that point, with black America just out of the Civil Rights years, Vietnam, the Panthers, etc, the prostitutes within our ranks began to make their moves into practical politics. Tom Bradley of LA was one of the first generation of the "new black politics" Marian Berry would be another example, and we've seen tons of jackasses since. Cigar smoking Big Willies as the hip hop crowd calls them now, "fire on one end and fool on the other" as Malcolm saw them in an earlier day.

So Mr. Obama is, as Chris says here, just exactly what he always wanted to be, that is to say, president of the United States, and it doesn't matter what it costs black people or anyone else. He's the Man, as it were,though he posesses none of the character Irving Wallace created in that sappy first black president novel forty years ago. And with all due respect to Mary Jo Kijewski, he ain't no post turtle. He knows full well what he does, and it's time all of us, black America, wherever and whichever, woke up and smelled the bonfire he's building under our asses.

BitterLittleFlower
01-30-2010, 10:46 PM
so said Glen Ford today in Boston. He also said that it's ok for whites not to like Obama either...blacks will back us up...

blindpig
01-31-2010, 11:05 AM
:grin:

chlamor
01-31-2010, 12:51 PM
To the question oft asked "what can Black America do now," interestingly, the answers have historical antecedents, precedents. It's the destruction of "Negritude" and "Black Historical Consciousness" that has impaired our ability to grasp solutions. This is one of the greatest dangers behind the scheme of "Post-Racial." Post -Racial is a scheme to further erase African America historical memory and cut us off from the creative process. One of the lessons of history? Hint: Integration wasn't all it was cracked up to be. The evidence is becoming increasingly irrefutable that Black Americans were stronger, more cohesive and dynamic in many ways, (notwithstanding their brutal legal and extra-legal repression) during the post-Reconstruction and Pre-Civil Rights Era than they are today, due, in no small part, ON THEIR NEED TO DEPEND UPON ONE ANOTHER. I don't suppose the Black folks discussed in these pages went around seeking "permission from Massa," to do what they needed to do. I don't suppose they lamented their ineptitude due to "institutional constraints." No, they gamed the system to the best of their abilities.

Read the paper and get some insights, for some it might even help some grow a pair, for others it's an appropriate model for critiquing the current sad state of "the Black Church," for all it dispells this notion of hopelessness and helplessness:

http://www.wilsoncenter.org/topics/pubs/ACF24D.pdf

This from the lead article over at BAR.

Obama State of the Union: Guns For the Pentagon, Butter For Wall Street, A Spending Freeze For You

http://www.blackagendareport.com/?q=content/obama-state-union-guns-pentagon-butter-wall-street-spending-freeze-you

BitterLittleFlower
01-31-2010, 03:28 PM
He was talking about those whites who were supporting Obama just because he was black, who thought it was really important that a black man was elected and maybe do need to be told its ok (weak minds?)...As you know the BAR never really supported him. Interesting story, when Obama had an early website up, he had a great antiwar speech (maybe a Senate campaign speech?), the DLC listed him as one of the up and coming Democrats in some press release; the next day the speech came off the website. BAR went and asked him why, it was like "oh, you know, gotta keep these sites updated..." think they quit on him then...

BitterLittleFlower
01-31-2010, 03:34 PM
Thanks!!

chlamor
01-31-2010, 04:50 PM
http://www.chris-floyd.com/component/content/article/1-latest-news/1911-freeze-frame-flopsweat-and-farce-in-the-hollow-halls-of-power.html