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11-21-2013, 12:39 AM
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A Black Agenda Radio commentary by Bruce A. Dixon
When Barack Obama ran for president, his “progressive” supporters in the environmental movement assured us he would rein in the coal and oil companies, and lead the nation into negotiations on global climate change. But this week's walkout of 133 nations at the UN Summit on Climate Change shows the difference between the oil soaked Bush-Cheney regime and Barack Obama on climate change. None.
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blindpig
11-21-2013, 01:41 PM
And this is because the environmental bund is a bunch of philistines, like all reformists, kept poodles who refuse to even consider what it will really take to achieve their stated goals. Nothing but the replacement of profit with meeting human need as the prime motivator of society will do that job. Until they 'go there' one cannot consider them serious, just sentimentalists and pettit bourgoise snobs whose denial of the root causes of environmental degradation abets that same degradation.
Dhalgren
11-21-2013, 05:10 PM
And this is because the environmental bund is a bunch of philistines, like all reformists, kept poodles who refuse to even consider what it will really take to achieve their stated goals. Nothing but the replacement of profit with meeting human need as the prime motivator of society will do that job. Until they 'go there' one cannot consider them serious, just sentimentalists and pettit bourgoise snobs whose denial of the root causes of environmental degradation abets that same degradation.
Dead-on. As long as these cretins own all the property, they will do as they please. Strip them of ownership and end private property and things can change for the better.
I think someone said, somewhere: "Fuck their efficiency! Fuck their progress! Fuck their profits!" I would add, "Fuck their property rights!"
blindpig
11-22-2013, 10:20 AM
Dead-on. As long as these cretins own all the property, they will do as they please. Strip them of ownership and end private property and things can change for the better.
I think someone said, somewhere: "Fuck their efficiency! Fuck their progress! Fuck their profits!" I would add, "Fuck their property rights!"
Apparently Naiome Klien has broached the subject and raised a bit of a stink:
http://www.salon.com/2013/09/05/naomi_klein_big_green_groups_are_crippling_the_environmental_movement_partner/
The eco-socialist site Climate and Capital spells it out:
One suspects that, given the response of some of the more market-oriented environmental organizations to drown out Klein’s arguments, what they are objecting to the most isn’t in fact, the claim that they are worse than climate deniers. Rather, that Klein’s larger sin lies elsewhere, in bringing out into the open a discussion large Green NGO’s would prefer to keep buried.
They fear antagonizing their funding sources and losing millions of dollars, should they become associated with more radical ideas, ones that center on discussing the nature of capitalism itself and the relationship between our economic and social system to the ecological and climate crisis. A fearful prospect which threatens not only specific tactics, but their entire raison d’être.
Here they define the situation:
Strategically speaking, over the large scale and longer term, what kind of society are we fighting for? Are we seeking merely to sand off some of the ever-expanding, rougher edges of capitalism, keep the system somewhat contained and at least a few small areas sacrosanct from the profit motive?
Or are we fighting for a completely different kind of world? One free of commodities, fast food, agribusiness, carbon markets, warfare over key resources, poverty, racism, sexism and a truly objective science and technology that is no longer twisted and disfigured by the priorities of financial accumulation.
The eco-socialist writings that I've seen are more than a little tainted with Trotskyism but up to a point they are spot on.(which can be said of that tendency in general) Still, some good clear statements in this article.
It is surely past time for the idea that the Democratic Party, regardless of the charisma, rhetoric, race or gender of its leaders, can possibly be an effective receptacle for people’s hopes and dreams for meaningful environmental, or any other kind of progressive change.
http://climateandcapitalism.com/2013/09/21/strategy-tactics-environmental-movement/
What these people need understand is that the environmental fight is but one aspect of the greater fight, though one of increasing importance.
blindpig
11-25-2013, 09:12 AM
Climate conference ends with UN admission of failure
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The idea of putting “pressure” on governments has been taken up by environmentalist activists in the past. Their perspective is that with enough letters written and enough protests held, world leaders will finally take initiative and solve global warming.
To call this politically bankrupt and impotent is an understatement. As shown through this conference and countless others, there is a fundamental inability, in the face of inter-imperialist rivalries and the predatory exploitation of the poorer countries by the richer ones, to come to any agreement on reorganizing the world economy to head off an environmental disaster.
There are powerful financial interests at stake. According to one report issued for the Warsaw conference, just 90 corporations worldwide are responsible for two-thirds of the greenhouse gas buildup over the past 200 years that is driving global warming. These corporations—mainly giant oil and gas monopolies and coal mining companies—cling to their profit interests in the face of threats to the survival of the human race.
If the available technology that exists today is to be utilized to carry out the urgent restructuring of energy generation, transportation, industry and agriculture to halt carbon emissions, while simultaneously raising worldwide living standards, it must be done under a rationally planned world socialist society.
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/11/25/clim-n25.html
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