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Kid of the Black Hole
01-30-2008, 11:24 PM
http://www.cuba.cu/gobierno/discursos/2 ... 0108i.html (http://www.cuba.cu/gobierno/discursos/2008/ing/f280108i.html)

A sincere man am I
From the land where palm trees grow,
And I want before I die
My soul's verses to bestow.

I'm a traveller to all parts,
And a newcomer to none:
I am art among the arts,
With the mountains I am one.

I know how to name and class
All the strange flowers that grow;
I know every blade of grass,
Fatal lie and sublime woe.

I have seen through dead of night
Upon my head softly fall,
Rays formed of the purest light
From beauty celestial.

I have seen wings that were surging
From beautiful women's shoulders,
And seen butterflies emerging
From the refuse heap that moulders.

I have known a man to live
With a dagger at his side,
And never once the name give
Of she by whose hand he died.

Twice, for an instant, did I
My soul's reflection espy:
Twice: when my poor father died
And when she bade me good-bye.

I trembled once, when I flung
The vineyard gate, and to my dread,
The wicked hornet had stung
My little girl on the forehead.

I rejoiced once and felt lucky
The day that my jailer came
To read the death warrant to me
That bore his tears and my name.

I hear a sigh across the earth,
I hear a sigh over the deep:
It is no sign reaching my hearth,
But my son waking from sleep.

If they say I have obtained
The pick of the jeweller's trove,
A good friend is what I've gained
And I have put aside love.

I have seen across the skies
A wounded eagle still flying;
I know the cubby where lies
The snake of its venom dying.

I know that the world is weak
And must soon fall to the ground,
Then the gentle brook will speak
Above the quiet profound.

While trembling with joy and dread,
I have touched with hand so bold
A once-bright star that fell dead
From heaven at my threshold.

On my brave heart is engraved
The sorrow hidden from all eyes:
The son of a land enslaved,
Lives for it, suffers and dies.

All is beautiful and right,
All is as music and reason;
And all, like diamonds, is light
That was coal before its season.

I know when fools are laid to rest
Honor and tears will abound,
And that of all fruits, the best
Is left to rot in holy ground.

Without a word, the pompous muse
I've set aside, and understood:
From a withered branch, I choose
To hang my doctoral hood.




YO SOY UN HOMBRE SINCERO... (Verso I)

Yo soy un hombre sincero
De donde crece la palma,
Y antes de morirme quiero
Echar mis versos del alma.

Yo vengo de todas partes,
Y hacia todas partes voy:
Arte soy entre las artes,
En los montes, monte soy.

Yo sé los nombres extraños
De las yerbas y las flores,
Y de mortales engaños,
Y de sublimes dolores.

Yo he visto en la noche oscura
Llover sobre mi cabeza
Los rayos de lumbre pura
De la divina belleza.

Alas nacer vi en los hombros
De las mujeres hermosas:
Y salir de los escombros,
Volando las mariposas.

He visto vivir a un hombre
Con el puñal al costado,
Sin decir jamás el nombre
De aquella que lo ha matado.

Rápida, como un reflejo,
Dos veces vi el alma, dos:
Cuando murió el pobre viejo,
Cuando ella me dijo adiós.

Temblé una vez —en la reja,
A la entrada de la viña,—
Cuando la bárbara abeja
Picó en la frente a mi niña.

Gocé una vez, de tal suerte
Que gocé cual nunca:—cuando
La sentencia de mi muerte
Leyó el alcalde llorando.

Oigo un suspiro, a través
De las tierras y la mar,
Y no es un suspiro,—es
Que mi hijo va a despertar.

Si dicen que del joyero
Tome la joya mejor,
Tomo a un amigo sincero
Y pongo a un lado el amor.

Yo he visto al águila herida
Volar al azul sereno,
Y morir en su guarida
La vibora del veneno.

Yo sé bien que cuando el mundo
Cede, lívido, al descanso,
Sobre el silencio profundo
Murmura el arroyo manso.

Yo he puesto la mano osada,
De horror y júbilo yerta,
Sobre la estrella apagada
Que cayó frente a mi puerta.

Oculto en mi pecho bravo
La pena que me lo hiere:
El hijo de un pueblo esclavo
Vive por él, calla y muere.

Todo es hermoso y constante,
Todo es música y razón,
Y todo, como el diamante,
Antes que luz es carbón.

Yo sé que el necio se entierra
Con gran lujo y con gran llanto.
Y que no hay fruta en la tierra
Como la del camposanto.

Callo, y entiendo, y me quito
La pompa del rimador:
Cuelgo de un árbol marchito
Mi muceta de doctor.

wolfgang von skeptik
02-01-2008, 05:29 AM
...in the face of the sophisticated and destructive weapons with which they seek to intimidate and subject us to an unjust , irrational and unsustainable social and economic world order: Sow ideas! Sow ideas! And sow ideas! Build awareness! Build awareness! And build awareness!

Kid of the Black Hole
02-01-2008, 05:08 PM
...in the face of the sophisticated and destructive weapons with which they seek to intimidate and subject us to an unjust , irrational and unsustainable social and economic world order: Sow ideas! Sow ideas! And sow ideas! Build awareness! Build awareness! And build awareness!

I posted the poem because I first came across Marti along time ago in, of all things, a comic book. Just a gratuitious plug I think, but I thought it was cool that Cuba still remembered and honored him. I'm undecided if I like that translation that forces a rhyme scheme or not.

I don't know if there's somewhere online to hear the Guantanamera or not. Probably its on YouTube

blindpig
02-01-2008, 05:24 PM
[quote]...in the face of the sophisticated and destructive weapons with which they seek to intimidate and subject us to an unjust , irrational and unsustainable social and economic world order: Sow ideas! Sow ideas! And sow ideas! Build awareness! Build awareness! And build awareness!

I posted the poem because I first came across Marti along time ago in, of all things, a comic book. Just a gratuitious plug I think, but I thought it was cool that Cuba still remembered and honored him. I'm undecided if I like that translation that forces a rhyme scheme or not.

I don't know if there's somewhere online to hear the Guantanamera or not. Probably its on YouTube[/quote:2888sgeb]

Marti is revered in Cuba above all. Plenty of Marti, some Che, no Fidel.

Kid of the Black Hole
02-01-2008, 05:41 PM
[quote]...in the face of the sophisticated and destructive weapons with which they seek to intimidate and subject us to an unjust , irrational and unsustainable social and economic world order: Sow ideas! Sow ideas! And sow ideas! Build awareness! Build awareness! And build awareness!

I posted the poem because I first came across Marti along time ago in, of all things, a comic book. Just a gratuitious plug I think, but I thought it was cool that Cuba still remembered and honored him. I'm undecided if I like that translation that forces a rhyme scheme or not.

I don't know if there's somewhere online to hear the Guantanamera or not. Probably its on YouTube

Marti is revered in Cuba above all. Plenty of Marti, some Che, no Fidel.[/quote:2s4axblj]

Really? I didn't know that. Very interesting..

anaxarchos
02-03-2008, 10:57 PM
Guantanamera was a pretty big hit and a cross-over hit on gringo radio, without general knowledge of the patriotic origins of the music. The gusanos attempt to claim the song for themselves just as they also attmpt to claim Marti. More interestingly, the song followed the Cubans to Central Africa when the Cuban army went in to support Angola against the South Africans. For almost a decade, various versions of the tune could be heard in any number of West African countries, sometimes with soukous guitars...

venceremos

http://198.62.75.1/www2/fcf/newimages/marti.portrait.jpeg

http://www.muzikifan.com/images7/BaobabDakar.jpg


ORCHESTRA BAOBAB
MADE IN DAKAR (World Circuit WCD078)

Orchestra Baobab serves up 11 choice cuts of prime Senegalese soul. Originally they took griot songs and Latin covers and brought them into a modern Senegalese idiom, forging a unique sound, which has cantering rhythms, great harmonies, soaring vocals, exquisite filigree guitar leads and jazzy saxes, all in one sweet package. "Papa Ndiaye," the classic opener, was first heard on BAWOBAB 75 (though it had been in their repertoire since 1968). "Beni Baraale" is a cover of a Bembeya Jazz song, & goes back to the roots of Baobab when some of the members played in the Star Band de Dakar, and a memorable night in 1969 when they shared a bill with Bembeya. Assane Mboup, one of Youssou's protégés steps up for "Nijaay," a reworking of a song by Laye Mboup with a bustling arrangement by Attiso who can be heard off in the corner soloing madly. (In fact he even throws a bit of Bach's D minor Fugue at it!) "Ami kita bay" is also new to me, though it has the familiar Baobab ingredients, as mbalax and salsa meet on the dancefloor. "Cabral" (Homage to Guinean freedom fighter Amilcar Cabral), which uses the "Guantanamera" changes, is one of their most enduring songs. It has been anthologized thrice before: Günter Gretz put it on ROOTS & FRUIT (Popular African Music ADC304) in 1999; the Sheer Sound compilation in their African Classics series led off with it, and the Oriki Music disc "A Night at Club Baobab" also featured it. "Sibam," the busy number which follows it, was on the Sheer compilation, as well as ON VERRA CA, the World Circuit compilation that collected the 1978 Paris Sessions. Thirty years later it's hotter than ever, with sabar and tama drums kicking it up a notch. There's an added trumpet solo: it's great to hear more rather than less brass instruments in the mix. There are some new songs in the classic Baobab mode, but it's another oldie that scorches the speakers: "Ndéleng Ndéleng," by Thione Seck. (Seck left Baobab to form Le Raam Daan, a band he still fronts.) Assane Mboup delivers this, sounding a lot like Youssou. Thio Mbaye's sabar drums are busily driving the dancers then Attiso steps up for a magical, inventive solo where he demonstrates how he can run rings around any guitarist alive. (The earlier 7.5 minute version, sung by Seck, can be heard on AFRICAN CLASSICS but it is a thin recording. Here they retain the big room echo, but it is a much more dynamic recording.) "Bikowa," a calypso by Issa Cissoko is a gorgeous ballad, with a hunt of "Stormy Weather." Issa's alto playing is great. "Colette," the final cut, dedicated to Attiso's wife, is another slow swaying dance groove, with a hot trombone solo. Attiso teases little moans out of his ax, dedicating the song to Carlos Santana.

Kid of the Black Hole
02-03-2008, 11:12 PM
. The gusanos attempt to claim the song for themselves just as they also attmpt to claim Marti.

That would explain the momument in Ybor then. I'd never heard about it til the last time I was down there.

anaxarchos
02-04-2008, 02:38 AM
. The gusanos attempt to claim the song for themselves just as they also attmpt to claim Marti.

That would explain the momument in Ybor then. I'd never heard about it til the last time I was down there.

I have a completely different and more obscure cultural reference for you. I have a friend who says to me, "I know Obama is full-of-shit but somewhere, in the back of my head, I can't help fantasizing that he could be Putney Swope."

http://www.avclub.com/content/files/images/Putney-Swope.jpg

Kid of the Black Hole
02-04-2008, 07:35 PM
. The gusanos attempt to claim the song for themselves just as they also attmpt to claim Marti.

That would explain the momument in Ybor then. I'd never heard about it til the last time I was down there.

I have a completely different and more obscure cultural reference for you. I have a friend who says to me, "I know Obama is full-of-shit but somewhere, in the back of my head, I can't help fantasizing that he could be Putney Swope."

http://www.avclub.com/content/files/images/Putney-Swope.jpg

I looked it up, it wasn't what I was expecting,. But it made perfect sense..your friends are as weird as you :D

How bad was the dubbing?..one guy on IMDB called it "creepy"

The closest I can think of that happening is Kanye saying "George Bush hates black people"

anaxarchos
02-04-2008, 10:48 PM
[quote]. The gusanos attempt to claim the song for themselves just as they also attmpt to claim Marti.

That would explain the momument in Ybor then. I'd never heard about it til the last time I was down there.

I have a completely different and more obscure cultural reference for you. I have a friend who says to me, "I know Obama is full-of-shit but somewhere, in the back of my head, I can't help fantasizing that he could be Putney Swope."

http://www.avclub.com/content/files/images/Putney-Swope.jpg

I looked it up, it wasn't what I was expecting,. But it made perfect sense..your friends are as weird as you :D

How bad was the dubbing?..one guy on IMDB called it "creepy"

The closest I can think of that happening is Kanye saying "George Bush hates black people"[/quote:3km4l7e0]

I don't know the dubbing story (except that Robert Downey's old man dubbed Putney's lines - don't know why). I don't remember the movie well enough to remember if his dialogue was "creepy"... but I remember that the movie was funny as shit if dubious politically. The plot is basically that chlamor takes over the largest Madison avenue ad agency and then has absolute power. Substitute H. Rap Brown for chlamor... or whomever.
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Kid of the Black Hole
02-04-2008, 11:04 PM
[quote]. The gusanos attempt to claim the song for themselves just as they also attmpt to claim Marti.

That would explain the momument in Ybor then. I'd never heard about it til the last time I was down there.

I have a completely different and more obscure cultural reference for you. I have a friend who says to me, "I know Obama is full-of-shit but somewhere, in the back of my head, I can't help fantasizing that he could be Putney Swope."

http://www.avclub.com/content/files/images/Putney-Swope.jpg

I looked it up, it wasn't what I was expecting,. But it made perfect sense..your friends are as weird as you :D

How bad was the dubbing?..one guy on IMDB called it "creepy"

The closest I can think of that happening is Kanye saying "George Bush hates black people"

I don't know the dubbing story (except that Robert Downey's old man dubbed Putney's lines - don't know why). I don't remember the movie well enough to remember if his dialogue was "creepy"... but I remember that the movie was funny as shit if dubious politically. The plot is basically that chlamor takes over the largest Madison avenue ad agency and then has absolute power. Substitute H. Rap Brown for chlamor... or whomever.
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Holy fuck,

H Rap Brown, now Jamil al-Amin, is in a goddamn Supermax for killing a pig?

http://wwwimage.cbsnews.com/images/2002/03/13/image503686x.jpg

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/03/ ... 3687.shtml (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/03/13/national/main503687.shtml)

Nothin's right about that story

blindpig
02-05-2008, 10:51 AM
http://www.msa.md.gov/msa/stagser/s1259/121/2395/html/d011778h.gif


On July 24, 1967, Rap was invited by a local civil rights group to address a rally in Cambridge, Maryland. Rap urged a crowd of about 400 people to fight fire with fire. Black folk built America, and if America dont come around, were going to burn American down Immediately following his speech, and while walking with a group down Race Street, Brown received a gunshot wound to his forehead as local police officers fired shots into the group of Black community residents. About four hours later after Brown left the state, the Pine Street Elementary School burned. This school had burned down twice before, and was a shell at the time of the July 24th burning.

http://americanascherrypie.tripod.com/id3.html

He sure scared the hell out of white folks in Maryland, it might have been the end of the world. But they didn't get it, couldn't understand what was wrong with the status quo. Of course they were fed a bunch of garbage, the victim was the aggressor.

Is it fair to say that the mainstream civil rights movement hung him out to dry? Sure looks that way, the old divide and conquer. His treatment is a warning to all, as it was meant to be. The Man has a long memory, you will be punished. Solidarity ain't just a slogan.