View Full Version : Trump Sweeps East Coast Primaries. Clinton Wins Four.
Mother Jones
04-27-2016, 08:33 AM
Last week, Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton won big victories in their home state of New York. On Tuesday night, as voters in five more East Coast states cast their ballots, the Republican and Democratic front-runners looked to expand their delegate leads over their rivals.
On the Republican side, Trump is expected to be the night's biggest winner. Polls show him trouncing Ted Cruz and John Kasich by double-digit margins (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/april26GOP.html) in Connecticut, Delaware, Maryland, Pennsylvania, and Rhode Island.
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Dhalgren
04-27-2016, 09:58 AM
"President Trump." Jesus Christ this is, again, mimicking the end of the Roman Empire: each successive Emperor, more and more incompetent, each Emperor less and less capable, the whole shebang sinking lower and lower and the barbarians at the gates. If the Romans had had nukes, the world would have ended around 400 AD. China better take over pretty soon or there won't be anything worth saving.
This whole election cycle is the worse yet. I mean, come on! Clinton? Sanders? (Bernie fucking Sanders?) Ted Crus? Donald fucking Trump? This is the best the US Bourgeois Empire can dredge up? I thought Obama and McCain and Obama and Romney were the nadir, but we ain't hit bottom yet. My son said, "Come on Dad, you have to know Hillary is better than Trump!" I told him I really couldn't say that. Hillary is more politically competent and more imperially established - neither of which elevates her in my view. Trump is a buffoon and a raging demagogue, an empty suit, in way over his head. Which is better? A competent monster or an incompetent fool (who may also be a monster)? Honestly, I have no idea. I only know either choice will be very bad for the working class - we got no dogs in this fight. We need some goddamned fighting dogs...
blindpig
04-28-2016, 09:36 AM
"President Trump." Jesus Christ this is, again, mimicking the end of the Roman Empire: each successive Emperor, more and more incompetent, each Emperor less and less capable, the whole shebang sinking lower and lower and the barbarians at the gates. If the Romans had had nukes, the world would have ended around 400 AD. China better take over pretty soon or there won't be anything worth saving.
This whole election cycle is the worse yet. I mean, come on! Clinton? Sanders? (Bernie fucking Sanders?) Ted Crus? Donald fucking Trump? This is the best the US Bourgeois Empire can dredge up? I thought Obama and McCain and Obama and Romney were the nadir, but we ain't hit bottom yet. My son said, "Come on Dad, you have to know Hillary is better than Trump!" I told him I really couldn't say that. Hillary is more politically competent and more imperially established - neither of which elevates her in my view. Trump is a buffoon and a raging demagogue, an empty suit, in way over his head. Which is better? A competent monster or an incompetent fool (who may also be a monster)? Honestly, I have no idea. I only know either choice will be very bad for the working class - we got no dogs in this fight. We need some goddamned fighting dogs...
The only good coming out of this, one would hope and expect, is ever heightened disillusionment of the working class. Between the two of them these 'front-runners' got some of the highest 'negatives' in the history of polling. Whoever wins and whoever 'serves', a great number of people are going to be massively pissed.
I'm starting to think that Trump might be the better agent of disillusionment. Clinton don't have much support among white working class and is expected to shit all over her black supporters in a shameless bid for those suburban. Republican voters delusional enough to consider Trump an insult to their intelligence. These Trump supporters need their faces rubbed in the reality of class society and I suspect that President Trump is just the guy to do it. He will deliver no relief to the working class, the realities of commerce and international relations will disappear his racist proposals in the face of opposition from NAM and the US Chamber of Commerce. I would not be surprised if he quit mid-term, ala Palin, after all he was the Winner, nothing more to prove, tired of the insults and bored. That would be great.
I'm dating this, 04/28/2016, just to see how long it takes to 'go bad', like old potato salad.
Allen17
04-29-2016, 12:33 PM
Aggressively imperialist (neo) liberalism vs. the Vulgar Neo-fascist Right. Truly a Sophie's Choice if there ever was one.
(not that we have any "choice" in the matter...)
Dhalgren
04-29-2016, 01:11 PM
Aggressively imperialist (neo) liberalism vs. the Vulgar Neo-fascist Right. Truly a Sophie's Choice if there ever was one.
(not that we have any "choice" in the matter...)
Sophie had to choose between her daughter and her son, which one to let the fascists murder, US citizens are choosing which set of fascists to let murder the world.
Dhalgren
04-29-2016, 01:13 PM
The only good coming out of this, one would hope and expect, is ever heightened disillusionment of the working class. Between the two of them these 'front-runners' got some of the highest 'negatives' in the history of polling. Whoever wins and whoever 'serves', a great number of people are going to be massively pissed.
I'm starting to think that Trump might be the better agent of disillusionment. Clinton don't have much support among white working class and is expected to shit all over her black supporters in a shameless bid for those suburban. Republican voters delusional enough to consider Trump an insult to their intelligence. These Trump supporters need their faces rubbed in the reality of class society and I suspect that President Trump is just the guy to do it. He will deliver no relief to the working class, the realities of commerce and international relations will disappear his racist proposals in the face of opposition from NAM and the US Chamber of Commerce. I would not be surprised if he quit mid-term, ala Palin, after all he was the Winner, nothing more to prove, tired of the insults and bored. That would be great.
I'm dating this, 04/28/2016, just to see how long it takes to 'go bad', like old potato salad.
You called it. I have thought for some time that Trump would quit when it got too hard or too boring or too expensive. Will he make it two years? Or just refuse to run again?
blindpig
05-19-2016, 04:32 PM
I would wear this hat...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ci1t_JOWYAItBlY.jpg
but it could be trouble.
Dhalgren
05-20-2016, 10:38 AM
I would wear this hat...
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ci1t_JOWYAItBlY.jpg
but it could be trouble.
Last night, my wife and I were having supper at my daughter's house and I said something very much like the caption on this cap. Everyone jumped on me (not physically or even in an ugly way), and demanded that I explain myself. When I started to try, my wife changed the subject and all was forgotten (well, except by me).
The depth of indoctrination continues to impress me:
"I wouldn't want to live anywhere else!" No, because the US squeezes every other worker on earth so that we in the US live better - but this won't last.
"The US is nothing like the Nazis!" Right, except in the outcome of the aims of their policies. The German Nazis wanted to control the world for Germany's benefit; the US wants to control the world for US benefit. The fact that the two nations were going about it in slightly different manners is practically the only difference. And that the US is successful (so far) and the Nazis weren't.
"Everything we do is not 'bad'!" No, everything the US does is not bad. It is just that the overwhelming majority of what the Us does is detrimental to almost everyone, everywhere - even within the US, as well.
End of discussion.
"What did our grandson do yesterday?" I actually really did want to know what he'd been up to, so, we moved on.
blindpig
05-20-2016, 11:10 AM
Last night, my wife and I were having supper at my daughter's house and I said something very much like the caption on this cap. Everyone jumped on me (not physically or even in an ugly way), and demanded that I explain myself. When I started to try, my wife changed the subject and all was forgotten (well, except by me).
The depth of indoctrination continues to impress me:
"I wouldn't want to live anywhere else!" No, because the US squeezes every other worker on earth so that we in the US live better - but this won't last.
"The US is nothing like the Nazis!" Right, except in the outcome of the aims of their policies. The German Nazis wanted to control the world for Germany's benefit; the US wants to control the world for US benefit. The fact that the two nations were going about it in slightly different manners is practically the only difference. And that the US is successful (so far) and the Nazis weren't.
"Everything we do is not 'bad'!" No, everything the US does is not bad. It is just that the overwhelming majority of what the Us does is detrimental to almost everyone, everywhere - even within the US, as well.
End of discussion.
"What did our grandson do yesterday?" I actually really did want to know what he'd been up to, so, we moved on.
Yer a regular turd in the punchbowl.
And if you continue to press your point with solid examples(very impolite!) exasperation is rife and no one really listens cause it's cognitive dissonance time, family is embarrassed and friends laugh and call ya a brain-washed communists, at least that's how it works around here.
How long, lord, how long?
Dhalgren
05-20-2016, 12:05 PM
Yer a regular turd in the punchbowl.
Yeah, all the damned time. And I don't even like the punch!
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