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little old me
08-24-2008, 06:43 AM
Questions for Dennis Kucinich: The Wild Card

Interview by DEBORAH SOLOMON, NYT

My favorite excerpt:



You’ve met with opposition from Nancy Pelosi and other Democrats for continuing to push for the impeachment of President Bush and Vice President Cheney. The process of democracy is a slow process, and it’s important that I do what I know to be the right thing.

But why bother with impeachment when Bush is on his way out of Washington anyhow? This president is capable of taking us into war, in October, on the eve of an election, to try to change the outcome of the election. We need to keep the ability to impeach at the ready in the event that this president continues to exercise a wanton approach toward the use of power, particularly the war power. The events in Georgia are a premonition.

A premonition of what? A premonition of an attack on Iran. When Georgia moves against South Ossetia as the Olympics are starting, the Bush administration begins its own Olympics — the war Olympics.

Are you saying the Bush administration is likely to declare war soon just to help Republican candidates pick up some votes? Well, you know, they increased the funding to Georgia a while back for military purposes.

You think President Saakashvili of Georgia was encouraged, possibly by the American government, to cry victim? Look. Saakashvili had an American lobbyist who is now part of the McCain campaign, and I am sure he was given advice. The idea of striking during the Olympics would have to come out of Madison Avenue. We have to be able to see through this. And the one thing I have shown an ability to do is to cut through the b.s.


Most of the questions were pretty condescending, imo, but he answered them with a lot of heart and soul anyway.

Entire Article:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/24/magazine/24wwln-Q4-t.html?_r=1&sq=Dennis%20Kucinich&st=cse&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&scp=2&adxnnlx=1219584032-B0KICjBE+0TxsBKw4yAsHg

little old me

davidgmills
08-24-2008, 06:09 PM
Dennis is not all that much different from the rest of the democrats.

Until Dennis changes his tune about 9/11 and publicly starts talking about controlled demolitions at the WTC's, he frankly is not that much different. And since I am now beginning to believe that anthropomorphic global warming is also a big government hoax, and he totes the government line on that issue as well, I just don't see all that much difference between him and the rest. The two biggest issues of our time and he is clearly status quo.

There is also election fraud and it was his state of Ohio that cost democrats the last presidential election.

And he doesn't speak up about Zionism.

And when has he said anything about taking the currency making out of the hands of the Federal Reserve and placing it back in the hands of the government?

Now these positions would be truly different and separate him from the crowd.

Instead he just takes positions at the margins.

little old me
08-25-2008, 06:04 AM
"... it’s important that I do what I know to be the right thing."

That's a direct quote from him in that article.

Up until now, I'd decided not to try to engage you on your view, because I figured it was important to let you feel you can express your POV, but for someone who goes around shooting his mouth off and getting all up in people's faces when they don't see things his way, you don't read well. I said he was my favorite DEMOCRAT. That, for me, at this point is like saying, he's my favorite toothache. I thought with your "binary" thoughts you'd be able to grasp that fine point, but you didn't.

Get outta my face. If you want to be a loudmouth and a bully, go aim it elsewhere. If I wanted that sort of treatment I'd go back over to DU and post there. I don't disrespect you. You don't disrespect me. Got it?

Now, if you have something constructive to say about the article, be my guest. If you just wanna fight, blow off.

Thanks.

little old me

davidgmills
08-25-2008, 11:57 AM
Now you say it is like having a favorite toothache.

Bizarre. But I will say no more.

little old me
08-25-2008, 01:38 PM
But............. I would think you, as a premiere officianado of "the lesser of two evils" school of political thought, would be able to grasp what I was saying. Kucinich is the best of what the Democrats have in their party. He is the lesser of all the evils they have to offer at the moment. I have a few other favorites (Ted Kennedy) as well, but at the moment Kucinich at least says he's trying to do the right thing. That's admirable. Period.

Politicians are not on my "favorites" list these days, so sue me.

Why do you go out of your way to be so disagreeable? I don't get it.

Whatever. Peace.

little old me

davidgmills
08-25-2008, 03:59 PM
But what I don't get is that people want ten choices to be happy, when that is never the way it is in the rest of their lives. You have no choice about being born and you have no choice about dying. But the rest of the time it almost always boils down to two choices.

What progressives don't like is that someone else has done the boiling.

Me? I can live with that. Maybe its because I am an athiest/agnostic and am used to being way outside the main stream. While I think religion is a totally non-rational way of viewing the world, I recognize that most of the US population is quite comfortable with it. So I have learned to deal with having no say in matters of religion.

And as they say, religion and politics have a lot in common.

So if someone else has boiled down my political choices to two, I have no problem with choosing between the two that are left because I know that neither approaches what I really think. But one will be closer than the other.

And to me, Kucinich is just another democrat, not much different than the rest, because to be truly different than the rest, he would be talking about the issues I mentioned.

goobernator
08-25-2008, 04:37 PM
thats cool, part of a much bigger army Id say.
For the record, people who insist on something like the Bldg 7 event as the smoking gun are hurting themselves, perhaps fatally. MORE THAN ENOUGH IS KNOWN AND IN THE PUBLIC RECORD to hang the Bush administration for prior knowledge and failing to warn and protect the American citizen that day. Going off half cocked looking for something else is just another way of saying "we dont have enough evidence".
Stupid in the extreme.
"anthropomorphic global warming is also a big government hoax"?
Right on, youre cutting edge crazy, I can appreciate that!

Virgil
08-25-2008, 06:55 PM
Kucinich does not talk about proportional representation, the CIA and the prohibitions, and election frauds, or GMOs, and the other frauds. He cannot say Sherman Anti-Trust Act and he cannot call bullshit on the No Child Left Behind Act or the educational system that fractionalizes things into subjects but cannot teach what is going on or tell about the future that is likely to happen given present trends.

I do not understand what is wrong with what you are saying here.

davidgmills
08-28-2008, 04:15 PM
that the WTC dust contains evidence of explosives and actual explosive residue.

To me, the public should know the science. Sometimes knowing the science is more important than knowing "who done it" or "why."