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Dhalgren
01-02-2011, 06:10 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rI0Li0-_Yy0

I guess it is just sentimental of me...

Kid of the Black Hole
01-02-2011, 06:37 PM
but Anti-flag are hugely lame

Dhalgren
01-02-2011, 06:46 PM
After all, I am not the most "hip", unlike...well...the more "hip". Okay the lame jokes can begin...now!

I'll start. Who is more lame, musically, than Dhalgren? Moe Howard? Homer Simpson? Ward Cleaver? None of the above. Bob Lewis is who is more lame...the answer was , Bob Lewis.

I just want to say that I simply liked the sentiment. The rich as a food stuff or sporting target seemed somehow warm and fuzzy...I don't know, I will admit to a streak of old-time nostalgia...

Dhalgren
01-02-2011, 07:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56u6g0POvo0



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_HH_jher3c



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ue_fIIfqVKg


Lame is lame...but it is also what it is...

Kid of the Black Hole
01-03-2011, 01:34 AM
yet..

..gramps..;)

I like the sentiment too, but as someone who's been to an Anti-Flag concert (poser alert!) I can assure you that even they realize they're something of a caricature. Except maybe Justin Sane (just insane get it?)

Oh, and the lamest part ist that they were supposed to have a concert in Pittsburgh once and cancelled due to police presence leaving me to attend an..Al Gore Rally.

New rule: I don't go to Al Gore Rallys unless its getting me laid, and even then I'm not staying for the whole thing.

I don't need a new rule to cover Devo.

blindpig
01-03-2011, 05:44 AM
Never heard of 'em. Too bad I got no sound card on this machine, that I might compare it to what I know to be lame, Fat Mattress, 3 Dog Night, Grand Funk Railroad...hard to be more lame than those.

Guess there's something to be said for cultural isolation.

Kid of the Black Hole
01-03-2011, 06:11 AM
The ones on your list are better described by, well, this:

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f93/Algy116/epic_failure.jpg

Dhalgren
01-03-2011, 07:06 AM
have to give it a listen - just sayin'...

blindpig
01-03-2011, 03:32 PM
there would be a disturbance in the Force, horses and cows would marry and Estwing hammers would break.

Careful what you wish for.

I attended one of those mega concerts back in the early 70's, 3DN was the closing act. Very clever, the place cleared out in record time.

Kid of the Black Hole
01-04-2011, 04:58 AM
"This next one's called Kill The Rich" then stab themselves to death in unison.

That would be one breakup show I'd like to attend

blindpig
01-17-2011, 01:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drlpkQTPr0Y

Courtesy Catherina at DU.

I like it.

blindpig
01-18-2011, 10:33 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJNPs7IZV4M



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhOtFd0Z5C8

Translation here:

http://lyricstranslate.com/en/reveillez-vous-awake-yourself.html

This stuff brings tears to my eyes, damn.

Dhalgren
01-18-2011, 12:20 PM
.

blindpig
01-19-2011, 08:58 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6J7ri91oVcM

Makes ya want to 'do something'...

blindpig
01-19-2011, 12:10 PM
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xb1yzr_hk-les-saltimbanks-on-lache-rien_music#from=embed&start=2

From the bottom of my urban project
Deep into your countryside
The reality has changed
And the revolt is brewing everywhere

In this world there was no place for us
We didn't look the part
We were not to the manor born
Not on daddy's plastic

The homeless, the unemployed, workers
Farmers, immigrants, the undocumented
They wanted to divide us
And to say they succeeded

As long as it was every man for himself
Their system could prosper
But one day we had to wake up
The heads had to roll

We'll never give an inch

They told us about equality
And like fools we believed them
"Democracy" makes me laugh
If we had had it we would have known it

What's the worth of our votes
Up against the law of the market?
They say "my dear fellow countrymen"
But we're fucked all the same

And what's the worth of human rights
Up against the airbus sale?
The bottom line, there's only one law, in sum:
"Sell yourself more to sell more."

The republic is a whore
Walking the street of dictators
We no longer believe
Their beautiful words
Our leaders are liars

We'll never give an inch

So stupid, so trite,
To speak of peace and brotherhood
When the homeless are dying in the streets
And the undocumented are being driven out

Crumbs are thrown to proles
Just something to calm them down
So they won't attack millionaire bosses
"Too important for our society"

It's crazy the way they are protected
All our rich and powerful
Not to mention the help they get
For being the friends of the president

Dear comrades, dear "voters"
Dear "citizen-consumers"
The alarm is ringing
It's time
To reset to zero

As long as there's struggle and hope
As long as there's life and battle
As long as we're fighting, we're standing
Here's the key
We're standing, we won't give an inch

The passion for victory runs in our blood
Now you know why we are fighting
Our ideal, more than a dream
Another world, we have no choice

We'll never give an inch


Another one courtesy of Catherina. I swear I'm starting to feel like Don Krinsher...whoops.

Tinoire
04-10-2011, 04:59 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqYHeX0i0NU

Here's the original by Carlos Puebla which is beautiful and has much better visuals


http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5oi5k

marat
04-10-2011, 05:46 PM
The Buena Vista Social Club version of this on the The Real Story section of the front page:

http://www.thebellforum.com/content.php?r=3-Real-Story

Tinoire
04-10-2011, 06:24 PM
! I didn't even see that before. I love that version. Heck, who am I kidding, I love them all. I have a tape with about 10 versions on it that I play while gardening. Thank God my neighbors seem ok. Is BVSC singing this version? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxtwzU0-wPM? I can't tell.

Zeca? That was great. I heard that sung in French (or Spanish?) last week and can't for the life of me find it now. I love that song!

Farantouri is a new pleasure. Going right next to Moustaki. Thanks!

anaxarchos
04-19-2011, 06:29 PM
! I didn't even see that before. I love that version. Heck, who am I kidding, I love them all. I have a tape with about 10 versions on it that I play while gardening. Thank God my neighbors seem ok. Is BVSC singing this version? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxtwzU0-wPM? I can't tell.

Zeca? That was great. I heard that sung in French (or Spanish?) last week and can't for the life of me find it now. I love that song!

Farantouri is a new pleasure. Going right next to Moustaki. Thanks!

Your version is the original Carlos Puebla version. The BVSC version is Ibrahim Ferrer.

Jose Afonso was a people's treasure, as was Theodorakis (and Farantouri). All were banned under Fascism and all should have been.

Afonso's song, Grândola Vila Morena, playing on the radio signaled the beginning of the April 1974 Revolution which overcame Portuguese Fascism after 50 years.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChILI0qlTH4&feature=player_detailpage

Likewise, the first that many people knew of the end of the Greek Junta was Theodarakis being played on the radio again.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GOQKEKDnBU&feature=player_detailpage

1974 was a very good year...

Tinoire
04-22-2011, 01:10 PM
Your version is the original Carlos Puebla version. The BVSC version is Ibrahim Ferrer.

Jose Afonso was a people's treasure, as was Theodorakis (and Farantouri). All were banned under Fascism and all should have been.

Afonso's song, Grândola Vila Morena, playing on the radio signaled the beginning of the April 1974 Revolution which overcame Portuguese Fascism after 50 years.

Likewise, the first that many people knew of the end of the Greek Junta was Theodarakis being played on the radio again.

1974 was a very good year...

Ok, now you're just making me cry- probably the fever and I need to go look these artists up.

I hope 2011 & 2012 will be better years and that the Mayans were right after all about this being the end of a system; of course, I only have one system in mind.

marat
04-23-2011, 12:30 AM
Ok, now you're just making me cry- probably the fever and I need to go look these artists up.

I hope 2011 & 2012 will be better years and that the Mayans were right after all about this being the end of a system; of course, I only have one system in mind.

If you want to stop crying, you don't want to look up these particular artists.

The song sung by Farantouri in the video is part of a cantata written by Theodorakis called Mauthausen. Theodorakis had been part of ELAS, the Greek Communist Resistance to the Nazis and, during the Civil War, he was arrested and sent to an infamous prison camp in the Greek islands where he was extensively tortured and buried alive twice. After he got out, Theodorakis set a poem by Iakovos Kambanelis to music to create the cantata.

Kambanelis had been a survivor of the Nazi extermination complex, Mauthausen, which grew to 50 camps and murdered hundreds of thousands. The main camp was one of only two "Level 3" camps created by the SS for "Incorrigible Political Enemies of the Reich" - mainly communists. Though murdered in such numbers, the inmates were never broken.

When the camp was finally liberated, the inmates - many of whom could barely drag themselves along the ground - had hung a huge banner across the gate greeting the liberators in the name of the "anti-fascist" fighters from the Spanish Civil War. They then proceeded to die at the rate of 300 per day, after their liberation. Their banner is visible in the background at the end of this video.

The video below is of the first two songs of the cantata, and tells the story.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukvXP1ZXqhs&feature=related

Tinoire
04-24-2011, 01:31 PM
You're right, I can't right now. I clicked on your link yesterday, watched the first 30 seconds and put it aside for this morning. Just watched the first 30 seconds again and decided to watch it tonight instead otherwise I won't get anything done today. Just rereading your post is enough to make me want to scream.

blindpig
04-25-2011, 09:15 AM
Here's a smile:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8444068312052750274#

reposted from LBN cause I like it so much.

TBF
04-25-2011, 09:24 AM
Here's a smile:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8444068312052750274#

reposted from LBN cause I like it so much.

I enjoyed that too - her voice is lovely.

Tinoire
04-26-2011, 10:40 PM
Here's a smile:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8444068312052750274#

reposted from LBN cause I like it so much.

This is a joke between you and TBF right? I clicked on it and got a really cheesy "Cuban music band playing "Guantanamera"". What beautiful voice?!?!?~

Try this on for size instead. Put a little soul into the tourist music lol!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cb_WPXYNhDw

blindpig
04-27-2011, 09:25 AM
To be honest I don't know what TBF was on about. 'Cheesy'? Those guys were having fun, what else is there? And it wasn't really so bad, was it? I like enthusiasm, loved early punk.

TBF
04-27-2011, 12:25 PM
To be honest I don't know what TBF was on about. 'Cheesy'? Those guys were having fun, what else is there? And it wasn't really so bad, was it? I like enthusiasm, loved early punk.

lol - I'm not sure which one I watched the first time, but it was definitely a woman singing and she had a great voice! It wasn't the one I'm seeing now with the guy. At any rate, I like Grunge so I probably shouldn't be commenting on anything musical ;)

marat
06-05-2011, 05:47 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnFfKbxIHD0&feature=player_detailpage

Tinoire
06-08-2011, 08:05 PM
Guerrero del amor (Warrior of Love)
- Katia Cardenal and Salvador Cardenal


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5o2tl1Ipygk

Or a more modern song: Zombie by the Cranberries that went over big in Nicaragua


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l54qCf-_JRQ



Guerrero del amor song is a tribute to the thousands of young men who were part of the SMP (the Sandinista Servicio Militar Patriotico - Patriotic Military Service) to defend Nicaragua from Washington aggression when the Reagan Administration financed, trained and armed his Contras, the criminal Somoza guards, that the US paraded around as "freedom fighters". Reagan's "freedom fighters" slaughtered over 50,000 innocent people.

The Contras helped their US buddies mine the port of Corinto (main port of Nicaragua) and other ports, attack oil storage tanks in port of Corinto , attack bridges, electricity transmission towers, dams, clinics, education and agricultural production. U.S. Navy Seals carried out the mining of the Port of Corinto and destroyed 3.2 million gallons of fuel.

This song is dedicated to all the fallen and those still living who defended Nicaragua against Washington aggression.


* ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~ * ~


"Reagan Was the Butcher of My People:" Fr. Miguel D’Escoto Speaks From Nicaragua

We go to Managua, Nicaragua to speak with Fr. Miguel D’Escoto, a Catholic priest who was Nicaragua’s Foreign Minister under the Sandinista government in the 1980s. [Includes transcript]

The 8 years Reagan was in office represented one of the most bloody eras in the history of the Western hemisphere, as Washington funneled money, weapons and other supplies to right wing death squads. And the death toll was staggering–more than 70,000 political killings in El Salvador, more than 100,000 in Guatemala, 30,000 killed in the contra war in Nicaragua. In Washington, the forces carrying out the violence were called "freedom fighters." This is how Ronald Reagan described the Contras in Nicaragua: "They are our brothers, these freedom fighters and we owe them our help. They are the moral equal of our founding fathers."


Fr. Miguel D’Escoto, a Catholic priest based in Managua, Nicaragua. He was Nicaragua’s Foreign Minister under the Sandinista government in the 1980s.


FATHER MIGUEL D’ESCOTO: First of all, let me start out by saying that, of course, Reagan is now dead. And I, for one, would like to say only nice things about him. I’m not insensitive to the feelings of many U.S. people mourning president Reagan, but as I pray that god in his infinite mercy and goodness forgive him for having been the butcher of my people, for having been responsible for the deaths of some 50,000 Nicaraguans, we cannot, we should not ever forget the crimes he committed in the name of what he falsely labeled freedom and democracy.

More perhaps than any other U.S. President, Reagan convinced many around the world that the U.S. is a fraud, a big lie. Not only was it not democratic, but in fact the greatest enemy of the right of self-determination of peoples. Reagan, as you mentioned just a few minutes ago, was known as the great communicator, and I believe that that is true only if one believes that to be a great communicator means to be a good liar. That he was for sure. He could proclaim the biggest lies without even as much as blinking an eyelash. Hearing him talk about how we were supposedly persecuting Jews and burning down non-existent synagogues, I was led to believe really, that Reagan was possessed by demons. Frankly, I do believe Reagan at that time as much as Bush today was indeed possessed by the demons of manifest destiny.

Of course, as I say this, I’m quite aware that to the people of say for example, Project for a New American Century, that is counted as a big plus. Because of Reagan and his spiritual heir George W. Bush, the World today is far less safe and secure as it has ever been. Reagan in fact was an international outlaw. He came to the Presidency of the United States shortly after Samosa, a Dictator that the U.S. has imposed over Nicaragua for practically half a century; had been deposed by Nicaraguan Nationalists under the leadership of the Sandinista Liberation Front. To Reagan Nicaragua had to be re-conquered. He blamed Carter for having lost Nicaragua, as if Nicaragua ever belonged to anyone else other than the Nicaraguan people. That was then the beginning of this war that Reagan invented, and mounted and financed and directed, the Contra War. About which he continually lied to the People. Helping the United States people to be the most ignorant people around the world. I said ignorant, I don’t say not intelligent. But the most ignorant people around the world about what the United States does abroad. People don’t even begin to see—if they did, they would rebel. And so, he lied to the people, as Bush lies to the people today and as they push on, thinking that the United States is above every law, human or divine. And we took the United States, Reagan’s United States, his government to court, the World Court. I was Foreign Minister at that time here in Nicaragua. I was responsible for that. And the United States government received the harshest sentence, the harshest condemnation ever in the history of world justice. In spite of the fact that the United States since the early 1920’s has been proclaiming to the world that one of the proofs of its moral superiority as compared to other countries around the world is the fact that it abides by the international law and was obedient to the world court when the United States was brought to the world court in Nicaragua and received the condemnation that the United States failed to heed the sentence and they till owe Nicaragua by now must be between 20,000 and $30,000 million at the time when we left government that the damages caused by that Reagan war was over $17 billion, and this, according to very moderate estimators of damage, people from the United Nations Economic Commission for Latin America, people from Harvard University and from Oxford and from the University of Paris basically this is the team that was pulled together to estimate the damage. The United States was ordered to pay for the damage. Bush never even wanted to talk to me about it. I said, "Well, let’s have a meeting so that you comply with your sentence of the court." He said to me in two different letters that there was nothing to talk about.

So, Reagan did damage to Nicaragua beyond the imaginations of the people who are hearing me now. The ripple effects of that; criminal murderous interventions in my country will go on for what, 50 years or more.

http://www.democracynow.org/2004/6/8/reagan_was_the_butcher_of_my


Guerrero del amor

Te cambio una canción por el coraje,

de tus jóvenes manos combatientes;

fundidas al metal con que nos salvas.


Te cambio este amar la vida y sus promesas,

por el frío de tus pies entre los suampos;

fraguadon que se te quema el miedo y la nostalgia.


[Coro:]

Autor anónimo de la alborada,

venado silencioso en la montaña;

guerrero del amor.

Hijo de este tiempo,remolino

pobre niño parido pues en plena selva,

para llegar al fin, a la victoria

para llegar al fin.


Te cambio esos 20 años duplicados,

a causa de esta guerra necesaria;

por la carnosa flor de la esperanza.


[Coro:]

Autor anónimo de la alborada,

venado silencioso en la montaña;

guerrero del amor.

Hijo de este tiempo,remolino

pobre niño parido pues en plena selva

para llegar al fin, a la victoria

para llegar al fin.


Autor anónimo de la alborada,

venado silencioso en la montaña;

guerrero del amor.

Hijo de este tiempo,remolino

pobre niño parido pues en plena selva

para llegar al fin, a la victoria

para llegar al fin.


Canción Dedicada a "Sandino"
General de Hombres Libres 1983