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TruthIsAll
01-21-2010, 07:51 PM
Coakley won the Hand Counts

So why is no one calling for a full recount of the optiscan ballots?

http://electionfraudblog.com/2010/bipartisanly-yours-coakley-won-the-hand-counts/

According to preliminary media results by municipality, Democrat Martha Coakley won Massachusetts overall in its hand counted locations,* with 51.12% of the vote (32,247 hand counted votes) to Brown’s 30,136, which garnered him 47.77% of hand counted votes. But this is nothing new. As a point of reference, however, in the Maine gay marriage issue recently there was no significant overall difference between machine count and hand count locations.

Obama won the handcounts in the New Hampshire primary by exactly the same margin that Clinton won the machine counts. It was just like the caucuses, where humans were counted- Obama won all of them easily. In 2004, there was a 2% exit poll discrepancy in handcounted paper ballot precincts, 7% in electronic voting machines (DREs and optical scanners), 6% in punched card and 12% in mechanical lever precincts (NY and CT voted 100% using levers).

Now, about the 2008 primaries. Focus on Super Tuesday. Check out MA.

http://www.electionmathematics.org/em-exitpolls/SuperTuesday2008DemPrimary.pdf

BUT THERE WAS NO EXIT POLL IN THE 2010 MA SENATE RACE. I WONDER WHY.The pattern is consistent: Democrats win elections when humans count the votes in full view. They lose when machines count and there is no paper to prove if they actually won or lost. They could re-count the optical scanner ballots in MA if they wanted to. But the Dems never want to -except for Al Franken. And you know what happened in MN.

Kid of the Black Hole
01-22-2010, 08:36 AM
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EDIT: corrected this thanks to Curt below

blindpig
01-22-2010, 09:23 AM
What more do ya need to know?

And somehow voter dissatisfaction with both the Mass healthcare system and the piece of shit that Congress is devising has nothing to do with the loss....

Kid of the Black Hole
01-22-2010, 09:37 AM
I don't think its honestly about Health Care, that is mostly right populist propaganda..they're not really against Obama Care, they're against Obama and government regulation as separate tenets.

I think when he says that the same outrage that swept him into office swept Brown in is correct. Mass Care (Romney Care) definitely has something do with said outrage but I don't think its the driver.

blindpig
01-22-2010, 11:06 AM
Been seeing a lot of 'lost the youth vote' and 'lost the union vote' over yonder, could be the wingers are right for the wrong reasons. Which works perfectly for them.

Kid of the Black Hole
01-22-2010, 11:14 AM
and he was saying something different from his book..like 180 degrees different. The point he hammered home is that since 1980 the Republican party and conservativism in general has been almost exclusively anti-government, particularly in the "private sector".

So I don't think they care about being right. In a triumph of sheer gall the Republicans actually submitted an "alternate" proposal for health care that would cover an additional 3 million people. Out of 46 million uninsured. Being right means nothing to them, they just care about winning, and when win it comes out of our hide. Everytime.

TruthIsAll
01-22-2010, 04:21 PM
Of course, that doesn't stop you guys.

Your eyes are off the ball.
The ball is ELECTION FRAUD.

And the fact is, the Dems continue to cover it up.
They are just as complicit.

You are so caught up in your jargon that you fail to see that it lends weight to your case.

curt_b
01-22-2010, 07:13 PM
And what is retarded?

Kid of the Black Hole
01-22-2010, 11:01 PM
I was talking to Auto Rank (junius) at SI and got his username mixed up with Truth Is All/TIA

TruthIsAll
01-23-2010, 04:24 AM
You find the post "retarded"?
Enlighten us with your infinite wisdom.

Kid of the Black Hole
01-23-2010, 07:24 AM
is that this happened on Tuesday. It seemed that information and tallies are scarce but somehow by the next day you not only have a theory of the "crime" you have "irrefutable proof" and it is always, always proof of whatever self-serving "truth" that you most want to peddle

And it is always presented as some political revelation without the slight attempt to justify why it matters politically at all.

You'rr putting on a hokum show here TIA, and I for one am not setting you up for the punchline.

You can't have this both ways no matter how mealy-mouthed you try to play it: does it matter whether the Democrats or Republicans hold this seat in Congress? I mean, does it matter to US? Why? Is there anyway we can "use" the "expose" that you provide to advance the cause of the workers?

You've called fraud on pretty much every national race won by Republicans in the last 50 years it seems like. Windmills much?

You're right about one thing though; retarded was the wrong word. I meant deranged.

TruthIsAll
01-23-2010, 12:25 PM
You can't weasel out of this.
Your mouth is bigger than your brain.

Where did you get this from: "....you not only have a theory of the "crime" you have "irrefutable proof" and it is always, always proof of whatever self-serving "truth" that you most want to peddle."

Where did I say that?
No, my only "irrefutable" proof is that you are making shit up.

You know, Stalin counted the votes just like Diebold. There is irrefutable proof of THAT. And Stalin was a COMMUNIST, not a FASCIST.

You expose yourself every time you try to thrash my posts.

I try to keep out of GENERAL. I learned to avoid you as much as possible.
Why don't you just stay out of ELECTIONS?
YOU HAVE NOTHING TO OFFER HERE.

Two Americas
01-23-2010, 01:20 PM
Tell me you didn't play the Stalin card.

Kid of the Black Hole
01-23-2010, 03:31 PM
in the first place

Really TIA? Thats what we should be worried about? Are you fucking sure, man?