Baton Rouge shooting: 3 officers killed, hunt on for shooters
By Ashley Fantz, CNN
Updated 1:33 PM ET, Sun July 17, 2016


(CNN)LATEST UPDATE

-- One suspect is dead, and two others may be at large
-- Police are looking for anyone wearing army fatigues, all black or possibly a mask
FULL STORY
In a city already tense following a high-profile police shooting of an African-American man, three Baton Rouge police officers were killed and three others wounded Sunday. Officials think the attack on the officers is the work of multiple gunmen.
Police received a call of a "suspicious person walking down with an assault rifle," a source with knowledge of the investigation told CNN. When police arrived, the shooting began.
One of the suspects is dead. Authorities believe two others may be at large.
"If they are wearing army fatigues; if they are wearing all black; if they are wearing a mask; if they are wearing anything that's out there, please, give us a call," said Baton Rouge Police Cpl. L.J. McKneely.

The shooting took place around 9 a.m. (10 a.m. ET) in the city of about 230,000 people.
"There was no talking, just shooting," McKneely said.
By noon, authorities had secured the scene and were making sure there weren't any explosives left behind.
"After that, we're going to gather as much information as we can and work this case as best as we can to find all individuals that were involved in this," McKneely said.
"Somebody might have seen something suspicious; may know of guys plotting to do this. That's why we're reaching out to the community."
Since the shooting death of Alton Sterling by Baton Rouge police earlier this month, the department has worried about credible threats against officers.
It's been an emotionally charged few days across the country because of the protests stemming from the Alton Sterling shooting, and the ambush on Dallas police officers where a sniper killed five officers.
"This is an unspeakable and unjustified attack on all of us at a time when we need unity and healing," Louisiana Gov. John Bel Edwards said.

Kip Holden, the mayor-president of East Baton Rouge Parish, said "everything is moving fast."
"There is still an active scene. They are investigating," he said. "Right now we are trying to get our arms around everything."

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Already discrepancies: ambush or were cops responding to shooting in progress? I suppose they might parley one into the other pretty effortlessly.

So then, peasants stove in baliff's skull with mattock or politics of the deed or false flag? The three are not entirely mutually exclusive. The difference between the first two is a matter of premeditation and program.

Already discrepancies: ambush or were cops responding to shooting in progress? I suppose they might parley one into the other pretty effortlessly.

So then, peasants stove in baliff's skull with mattock or politics of the deed or false flag? The three are not entirely mutually exclusive. The difference between the first two is a matter of premeditation and program.

Kick a dog long enough and he might just bite your fucking ass. Just because he doesn't bite don't mean you were right to kick him. And just because he does bite doesn't mean he is a bad dog. Sometimes your ass just needs biting.

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A Black Agenda Radio commentary by BAR managing editor Bruce A. DixonMalicious authoritarians in both parties peddle fantasies connecting Black Lives Matter and the broad movement of millions against police immunity and impunity for violent acts against civilians with the deranged shooters of cops in Dallas and Baton Rouge. The connection they won’t talk about is that both the shooters and many violent and abusive police first practiced their trade in the twisted and deranged world of the US military.
Blowback: Does the*US Military Incubate*Brutal, Abusive Cops Along With Their Deranged, Disconnected Shooters?A Black Agenda Radio commentary by BAR managing editor Bruce A. DixonMedia spokespeople and politicians in both parties are working overtime to paint imaginary connections between the broad movement supported by millions of Americans to strip police of their traditional immunity and impunity for violent acts committed against civilians on the one hand, and the deranged, disconnected shooters of police in Texas and Louisiana.
The real links they studiously ignore are that the Dallas (http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/08/us/micah-xavier-johnson-dallas-shooter/) and Baton Rouge (http://www.military.com/daily-news/2016/07/17/ex-marine-identified-shooter-3-baton-rouge-officers-reports.html) shooters were both veterans of the unjust and murderous US military occupations of Afghanistan and/or Iraq, as are many of the police who commit violent acts against their fellow Americans after they return home. While the percentage of cops with military backgrounds is unclear due to the existence of special laws protecting police personnel, disciplinary and other records from prosecutorial and public scrutiny, the percentage of military veterans among police around the country is probably higher than any other line of work excepting civilian employees of the Pentagon, intelligence services and their contractors.
The US military is widely known to aggressively discourage (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/14/veteran-mental-health_n_2475892.html) soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines from admitting to or seeking help for psychological disorders and injuries. The world our military members live in is a brutal and twisted place where two out of five (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-rape-military-idUSKCN0QW24P20150827) women are sexually assaulted. It’s a world where reporting, not committing such an assault is a career-ender, a world where seeking help for psychological problems can impair your security clearance and job prospects years later in civilian life because military medical and psychological records, unlike those of civilians are not confidential.
Indications are that the Baton Rouge and Dallas shooters both had problems which are likely results of their military experience. By the same token, it’s not implausible to imagine that many violent and abusive former military members were in need of psychological help even before they became law enforcement officers.
Media spokespeople and politicians in both parties are working overtime to paint imaginary connections between the broad movement supported by millions of Americans to strip police of their traditional immunity and impunity for violent acts committed against civilians on the one hand, and the deranged, disconnected shooters of police in Texas and Louisiana.
The real links they studiously ignore are that the Dallas (http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/08/us/micah-xavier-johnson-dallas-shooter/) and Baton Rouge (http://www.military.com/daily-news/2016/07/17/ex-marine-identified-shooter-3-baton-rouge-officers-reports.html) shooters were both veterans of the unjust and murderous US military occupations of Afghanistan and/or Iraq, as are many of the police who commit violent acts against their fellow Americans after they return home. While the percentage of cops with military backgrounds is unclear due to the existence of special laws protecting police personnel, disciplinary and other records from prosecutorial and public scrutiny, the percentage of military veterans among police around the country is probably higher than any other line of work excepting civilian employees of the Pentagon, intelligence services and their contractors.
The US military is widely known to aggressively discourage (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/14/veteran-mental-health_n_2475892.html) soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines from admitting to or seeking help for psychological disorders and injuries. The world our military members live in is a brutal and twisted place where two out of five (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-rape-military-idUSKCN0QW24P20150827) women are sexually assaulted. It’s a world where reporting, not committing such an assault is a career-ender, a world where seeking help for psychological problems can impair your security clearance and job prospects years later in civilian life because military medical and psychological records, unlike those of civilians are not confidential.
Indications are that the Baton Rouge and Dallas shooters both had problems which are likely results of their military experience. By the same token, it’s not implausible to imagine that many violent and abusive former military members were in need of psychological help even before they became law enforcement officers.
For too long Americans have hidden from the facts and the consequences of America’s brutal overseas wars, even while making motion picture heroes of white snipers like Chris Kyle (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/jan/06/real-american-sniper-hate-filled-killer-why-patriots-calling-hero-chris-kyle) who famously claimed to have been paid to shoot 30 so-called “looters” (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/07/30/the-complicated-but-unveriable-legacy-of-chris-kyle-the-deadliest-sniper-in-american-history/) in New Orleans during the Katrina disaster. In Chicago, the famous police torturer John Burge first learned his trade in the Vietnam war’s Phoenix (http://dissidentvoice.org/2014/08/the-phoenix-program-americas-use-of-terror-in-vietnam/) program. A generation later Burge’s successors in the Chicago Police Department were directly linked to the mistreatment of prisoners at Guantanamo. Rank and file US torturers at Abu Gharaib were Pennsylvania prison guards (http://articles.mcall.com/2004-05-18/opinion/3539600_1_graner-abu-ghraib-prison-security-prison) in civilian life.
While malicious authoritarians from Hillary Clinton and Wolf Blitzer to Bill O’Reilly and Rudi Guliani want to sell us their fantasies connecting Black Lives Matter movement and shootings of police, they ignore the all too real blowback on American streets from our nation’s permanent war footing.
It’s not fantasy but fact that US special ops troops are currently active in dozens of countries across Afric (http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/175830/tomgram:_nick_turse,_africom_becomes_a_%22war-fighting_combatant_command%22/)a (http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/175830/tomgram:_nick_turse,_africom_becomes_a_%22war-fighting_combatant_command%22/) and Asia, and in Ukraine (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/08/13/american-paratroopers-in-ukraine-have-putin-rattled.html) on the borders of Russia, doing bloody brutal and unspeakable things the American people don’t endorse and didn’t vote for. Their crimes go unacknowledged and unpunished and their psychological injuries untreated. Our military, stationed at the frontiers of US empire in more than a hundred countries around the world are incubating the next waves of brutal and abusive police, along with their disconnected and deranged shooters, all practicing what they never should have been taught, bringing home to us another cost of global empire.
For Black Agenda Radio I’m Bruce Dixon. Find us on the web at www.blackagendareport.com (http://www.blackagendareport.com/).
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Edit: Been saying this for years.

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by BAR editor and senior columnist Margaret KimberleySo-called “responsible” Black folks may dismiss the young Black veteran gunmen of Dallas and Baton Rouge as deranged, but who are really “the crazy ones” – those who believe the racist system will change under the pressure of peaceful protest, or those, like Gavin Long, who maintain that revolutions are won “through fighting back through bloodshed”? Black folks will have to wrestle with this question without interference from corporate voices.
Freedom Rider: Gavin Long’s Last Wordsby BAR editor and senior columnist Margaret Kimberley“There was a time when talk of devils and revolution was common and it should be reclaimed in the 21st century.”
“So you think it’s wrong when you fight back but you celebrate it when somebody else fights back.” -- Gavin Long
The murders of Alton Sterling and Philando Castille were not unique. On average one black person is killed by police every day. But cameras were rolling and the sight of police lynch law twice in 48 hours was too much for millions of people to bear. So much so that revenge was not just contemplated but carried out. Micah Johnson and Gavin Long were named as suspects in shootings of police in Dallas and Baton Rouge. Both paid with their lives. If guilty, they were motivated to act on their anger and they changed everything about the movement to end police lynch law.
Johnson and Long were both black men who served in the military. Johnson was deployed in Afghanistan and Long in Iraq. Aside from the police version of their conversation with Johnson we know nothing about his thinking. But Long often expressed himself on social media. What he said is worthy of attention.
In an
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLBOZ2yrolE downloaded the day of the Baton Rouge shootings, Long explained his beliefs about confronting violence, building revolutionary struggle and getting justice. He said what many black people think about but do not act upon. Long asked questions that never make it into the realm of accepted discourse precisely because the truth is so inconvenient.
“The same devilish system that encourages murder by anyone wearing a uniform should not determine how we assess Johnson and Long.”
Long made a specific reference to the celebration of American independence. “When an African fights back its wrong. But every time a European fights back against his oppressor he’s right.” The question may be rhetorical but the answer is very simple. The fight for so-called independence by the white settler population was a struggle for the right to wage aggressive war against the indigenous population and enslaved Africans. George Washington and the rest of the “founding fathers” wanted to be certain that Britain would not hinder their project for annihilation and subjugation. That history makes it impossible for black people’s freedom to be discussed at all, much less be celebrated.
Long did not make a plaintive plea for justice. He told us what we know in our hearts but usually don’t want to acknowledge in our state of hopefulness. “A bully doesn’t care about your rights.” White supremacy is our collective bully. The politicians and the 1% they work for are bullies. Like “made” men in the mafia they don’t care about law or morality. They crush black peoples’ lives and take what they want. All the while they expect us to be silent about their criminality. Their treatment of those who do speak up shows the truth of Long’s words. The exaltation of the concept of human rights in this country is a ruse used to keep people passive and in a state of confused magical thinking.
Long continued in a discussion of revolutionary struggle. “100% of revolutions, of victims fighting their oppressors, from victims fighting their bullies, 100% have been successful through fighting back through bloodshed. Zero have been successful just protesting.” The failure of the Black Lives Matter organization proves that apolitical protest with no expression of demands amounts to very little. They have coined a phrase that is on everyone’s lips but they have no program, no plan for teaching black people to fight back, to stand on their rights as Long said. BLM specializes in talk of “healing” and “safe spaces” but is uninterested in providing a road map for action.
“Black Lives Matter has coined a phrase that is on everyone’s lips but they have no program.”
The denunciations directed at them by white racists don’t mean much. Black people can do very little and still be the object of hate and derision. Hostility towards the useless Black Lives Matter organization is proof. After all, bullies don’t care about rights or slogans and won’t rectify injustice until they feel the need to do so.
“Knowing your rights doesn’t mean nothing especially in this world ran [sic] by devils. Devils run this.” Talk of devils in our system should not be a relic of long past polemics. Our system is diabolical as it snatches up lives into the prison system or increases poverty through capitalism or kills wantonly around the world. America is the evil empire and thinks nothing about trampling on humanity on a regular basis.
“That’s what the revolution is. Once it gets to the point where people stand on their rights. It’s not knowing your rights. Knowing your rights is nothing to a bully its nothing to a demon, its nothing to a devil. You got to stand on your rights.”
“Knowing your rights is nothing to a bully its nothing to a demon, its nothing to a devil.”
There was a time when talk of devils and revolution was common and it should be reclaimed in the 21st century. It is a mistake to reject Micah Johnson and Gavin Long. When they wore military uniforms and carried out orders on behalf of the empire they were honored and thanked for their service. They acted in Dallas and Baton Rouge as they were trained to by our government.
The same devilish system that encourages murder by anyone wearing a uniform should not determine how we assess Johnson and Long. As always happens in moments of struggle, their acts may prove damaging to the people they wanted to avenge. One of the policemen killed in Baton Rouge was a black man. That sad irony must be part of the black community discussion and should have nothing to do with political platitudes or corporate media pronouncements.
Johnson and Long had no reason to believe that Sterling and Castile would get justice. Eric Garner didn’t. Freddie Gray didn’t. The rest of us may hope that the system will do what it should and punish devilish behavior. Perhaps we are the crazy ones. Micah Johnson and Gavin Long were certainly outliers. But perhaps they understood reality better than the rest of us do.
Margaret Kimberley's Freedom Rider column appears weekly in BAR, and is widely reprinted elsewhere. She maintains a frequently updated blog as well as at http://freedomrider.blogspot.com. (http://freedomrider.blogspot.com/) Ms. Kimberley lives in New York City, and can be reached via e-Mail at Margaret.Kimberley(at)BlackAgendaReport.com.




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by BAR editor and senior columnist Margaret KimberleySo-called “responsible” Black folks may dismiss the young Black veteran gunmen of Dallas and Baton Rouge as deranged, but who are really “the crazy ones” – those who believe the racist system will change under the pressure of peaceful protest, or those, like Gavin Long, who maintain that revolutions are won “through fighting back through bloodshed”? Black folks will have to wrestle with this question without interference from corporate voices.
Freedom Rider: Gavin Long’s Last Wordsby BAR editor and senior columnist Margaret Kimberley“There was a time when talk of devils and revolution was common and it should be reclaimed in the 21st century.”
“So you think it’s wrong when you fight back but you celebrate it when somebody else fights back.” -- Gavin Long
The murders of Alton Sterling and Philando Castille were not unique. On average one black person is killed by police every day. But cameras were rolling and the sight of police lynch law twice in 48 hours was too much for millions of people to bear. So much so that revenge was not just contemplated but carried out. Micah Johnson and Gavin Long were named as suspects in shootings of police in Dallas and Baton Rouge. Both paid with their lives. If guilty, they were motivated to act on their anger and they changed everything about the movement to end police lynch law.
Johnson and Long were both black men who served in the military. Johnson was deployed in Afghanistan and Long in Iraq. Aside from the police version of their conversation with Johnson we know nothing about his thinking. But Long often expressed himself on social media. What he said is worthy of attention.
In an
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLBOZ2yrolE downloaded the day of the Baton Rouge shootings, Long explained his beliefs about confronting violence, building revolutionary struggle and getting justice. He said what many black people think about but do not act upon. Long asked questions that never make it into the realm of accepted discourse precisely because the truth is so inconvenient.
“The same devilish system that encourages murder by anyone wearing a uniform should not determine how we assess Johnson and Long.”
Long made a specific reference to the celebration of American independence. “When an African fights back its wrong. But every time a European fights back against his oppressor he’s right.” The question may be rhetorical but the answer is very simple. The fight for so-called independence by the white settler population was a struggle for the right to wage aggressive war against the indigenous population and enslaved Africans. George Washington and the rest of the “founding fathers” wanted to be certain that Britain would not hinder their project for annihilation and subjugation. That history makes it impossible for black people’s freedom to be discussed at all, much less be celebrated.
Long did not make a plaintive plea for justice. He told us what we know in our hearts but usually don’t want to acknowledge in our state of hopefulness. “A bully doesn’t care about your rights.” White supremacy is our collective bully. The politicians and the 1% they work for are bullies. Like “made” men in the mafia they don’t care about law or morality. They crush black peoples’ lives and take what they want. All the while they expect us to be silent about their criminality. Their treatment of those who do speak up shows the truth of Long’s words. The exaltation of the concept of human rights in this country is a ruse used to keep people passive and in a state of confused magical thinking.
Long continued in a discussion of revolutionary struggle. “100% of revolutions, of victims fighting their oppressors, from victims fighting their bullies, 100% have been successful through fighting back through bloodshed. Zero have been successful just protesting.” The failure of the Black Lives Matter organization proves that apolitical protest with no expression of demands amounts to very little. They have coined a phrase that is on everyone’s lips but they have no program, no plan for teaching black people to fight back, to stand on their rights as Long said. BLM specializes in talk of “healing” and “safe spaces” but is uninterested in providing a road map for action.
“Black Lives Matter has coined a phrase that is on everyone’s lips but they have no program.”
The denunciations directed at them by white racists don’t mean much. Black people can do very little and still be the object of hate and derision. Hostility towards the useless Black Lives Matter organization is proof. After all, bullies don’t care about rights or slogans and won’t rectify injustice until they feel the need to do so.
“Knowing your rights doesn’t mean nothing especially in this world ran [sic] by devils. Devils run this.” Talk of devils in our system should not be a relic of long past polemics. Our system is diabolical as it snatches up lives into the prison system or increases poverty through capitalism or kills wantonly around the world. America is the evil empire and thinks nothing about trampling on humanity on a regular basis.
“That’s what the revolution is. Once it gets to the point where people stand on their rights. It’s not knowing your rights. Knowing your rights is nothing to a bully its nothing to a demon, its nothing to a devil. You got to stand on your rights.”
“Knowing your rights is nothing to a bully its nothing to a demon, its nothing to a devil.”
There was a time when talk of devils and revolution was common and it should be reclaimed in the 21st century. It is a mistake to reject Micah Johnson and Gavin Long. When they wore military uniforms and carried out orders on behalf of the empire they were honored and thanked for their service. They acted in Dallas and Baton Rouge as they were trained to by our government.
The same devilish system that encourages murder by anyone wearing a uniform should not determine how we assess Johnson and Long. As always happens in moments of struggle, their acts may prove damaging to the people they wanted to avenge. One of the policemen killed in Baton Rouge was a black man. That sad irony must be part of the black community discussion and should have nothing to do with political platitudes or corporate media pronouncements.
Johnson and Long had no reason to believe that Sterling and Castile would get justice. Eric Garner didn’t. Freddie Gray didn’t. The rest of us may hope that the system will do what it should and punish devilish behavior. Perhaps we are the crazy ones. Micah Johnson and Gavin Long were certainly outliers. But perhaps they understood reality better than the rest of us do.
Margaret Kimberley's Freedom Rider column appears weekly in BAR, and is widely reprinted elsewhere. She maintains a frequently updated blog as well as at http://freedomrider.blogspot.com. (http://freedomrider.blogspot.com/) Ms. Kimberley lives in New York City, and can be reached via e-Mail at Margaret.Kimberley(at)BlackAgendaReport.com.




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“When an African fights back its wrong. But every time a European fights back against his oppressor he’s right.”

Long may lack some in the theory arena (and maybe not), but is dead-on in the action sphere. I have alienated a whole bunch of folks, when I said that all police, everywhere, work for the same people - and it ain't us. I said that in the 1930s Germany, your local Nazis may not have hurt anyone, but they were the same as the Nazis who killed Jewish citizens in the streets of Berlin. Cops are the same - local ones may not have lynched anyone lately, but they all work for the same people, under the same orders. So that was why it was a legitimate strike in Dallas IF you were fighting back against police lynching and oppression in this country. I said just look at all the police lynching in this country over the last two centuries, it is so common that it is ridiculous not to call it "policy".

Man, do I know how to clear a room...

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NORTH MIAMI, FLA. (WSVN) - A therapist who works with people with disabilities is telling his story after he said police shot him while he was trying to help his patient with autism.

Cellphone video was released Wednesday afternoon showing Charles Kinsey lying on the ground with his hands in the air, telling officers that weapons are not necessary. “When I went to the ground, I’m going to the ground just like this here with my hands up,” Kinsey said, “and I am laying down here just like this, and I’m telling them again, ‘Sir, there is no need for firearms. I’m unarmed, he’s an autistic guy. He got a toy truck in his hand.”

In his hospital bed, Kinsey said, he was attempting to calm an autistic patient who ran away from a group home. Kinsey could be heard in the video saying, “All he has is a toy truck. A toy truck. I am a behavior therapist at a group home.”

Video shows moments before North Miami Police shot unarmed man

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He is also heard asking his patient to calm down. “Rinaldo, please be still, Rinaldo. Sit down, Rinaldo. Lay on your stomach.”

The ordeal went on for a few minutes before Kinsey said one of the officers shot him. “I’m like this right here, and when he shot me, it was so surprising,” Kinsey said. “It was like a mosquito bite, and when it hit me, I’m like, ‘I still got my hands in the air, and I said, ‘No I just got shot! And I’m saying, ‘Sir, why did you shoot me?’ and his words to me, he said, ‘I don’t know.'”

North Miami Police said the incident began, Monday, when someone called 911 and said there was a man walking around with a gun threatening suicide. Kinsey said the man was his patient and the alleged gun was a toy truck, which he said was clearly visible to police. “I was really more worried about him than myself. I was thinking as long as I have my hands up … they’re not going to shoot me. This is what I’m thinking, they’re not going to shoot me. Wow, was I wrong.”

Kinsey was then shot in the leg. The shooting was not captured on camera but Kinsey said he had his hands up the entire time.

The therapist said police then rushed him, patted him down and put him in handcuffs. Kinsey said what police did after the shooting is what upsets him the most. “They flipped me over, and I’m faced down in the ground, with cuffs on, waiting on the rescue squad to come. I’d say about 20, about 20 minutes it took the rescue squad to get there. And I was like, bleeding — I mean bleeding and I was like, ‘Wow.'”

Despite everything that’s happened, Kinsey is happy to be alive. Standing by his bedside, his wife said, “Right now, I am just grateful that he is alive, and he is able to tell his story.”

Kinsey only wants to help people and is perplexed as to why officers fired. “My life flashed in front of me,” he said. “When he hit me, my first thing I’m thinking, I’m thinking about my family.”

Around 6 p.m. Wednesday, a group called the Circle of Brotherhood stood outside the North Miami Police Department, requesting that police answer questions about what happened and if the officer responsible for shooting will face charges.

The organization, which Kinsey is a part, of works to solve problems in the community.

Kinsey’s lawyer, Hilton Napoleon, is outraged. “There’s no justification for shooting an unarmed person who’s talking to you and telling you that they don’t have a gun, and that they’re a mental health counselor,” Napoleon said.

North Miami Police have not released the officer’s name or an update on their investigation. However, they did say that the State Attorney is now involved with the investigation.

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“There’s no justification for shooting an unarmed person who’s talking to you and telling you that they don’t have a gun, and that they’re a mental health counselor,”

Justification? What is this guy talking about? When have the police ever needed "justification" in shooting down a citizen of color?