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The Guardian
05-16-2012, 09:02 AM
The newly inaugurated French president, François Hollande, and the German chancellor, Angela Merkel, agree to work closely on growth in Europe
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Dhalgren
05-16-2012, 12:19 PM
Jesus, these vultures are talking about "helping" Greece reorganize - shit that sounds ominous. Also, they said, in essence, Greece ain't getting out of the EU. Didn't sound like the two "leaders" thought of this as in any way up to the Greeks...
blindpig
05-16-2012, 12:53 PM
Ha, just happened to have this in my pocket:
Germany will blink, and won’t let Greece exit euro
Commentary: Marshall Plan-style aid would give Athens time
LONDON (MarketWatch) — It doesn’t take long for an idea to become an accepted fact in the markets.
Six months ago, talk of Greece leaving the euro was seen as so unlikely nobody had to think seriously about. Now the ‘Grexit’ — as a Greek exit from the euro has been dubbed — is increasingly seen as a done deal.
Citibank rates the chances as high as 75% that Greece will leave the single currency in the next 18 months. The British bookmaker William Hill regards it as such as done deal it is no longer taking bets.
It’s not hard to understand why. The Greeks won’t accept austerity anymore. The Germans won’t give them any more money if they don’t take the harsh medicine that is being prescribed. Game over. The exit signs are flashing red.
There’s just one snag with that analysis. It isn’t going to happen. Germany will realize the risks involved, eat its words and come up with a mega bailout. Instead of a ‘Grexit’ we’ll see a “Grashall Plan” — as a Marshall Plan for Greece will quickly be dubbed — to reflate its economy and keep the euro staggering on for a couple more years, at least.
There’s no mystery about why the markets have suddenly woken up to the possibility that Greece quitting the single currency is suddenly a very real possibility. The Greek election decisively rejected the austerity plan imposed by the European Union and the International Monetary Fund. Unless it sticks to the plan, no more bailout money is forthcoming.
And the country is broke. Its budget deficit is still vast, and it has no way of raising money on the capital markets by itself. The cash to pay its bondholders isn’t going to be there. The police and soldiers and public servants are not going to get their wages. Without the next slug of bailout money, Greece is going to quite literally shut down.
With little sign of a new government being formed, there is now the prospect of another election next month. But there is very little evidence it will produce a different result. The Greeks voted against austerity in May, and will probably do so again in June. Nothing much has happened to change their minds. A fresh election might well result in an even more decisive anti-austerity majority.
Meanwhile, German officials have started briefing that the groundwork has been done, and that a “Grexit” is now a manageable event. The German newspapers are suddenly full of briefings from senior government officials that everything is under control. Sure, they don’t want the Greeks to leave the euro, and no one is forcing them out. But if it happens, it happens. Maybe there will be some chaos in the markets. But there is a plan in place to make sure the country is ushered out smoothly — and the euro emerges otherwise intact.
It all adds up to making the ‘Grexit’ look like a done deal.
But it isn’t. The Germans are talking tough. When it comes to the crunch, however, they will blink, and deliver a Marshall Plan–style package to keep Greece in the euro.
Here’s why.
A ‘Grexit’ is a very high-risk strategy.
There is absolutely no way of knowing whether contagion to other countries can be contained. True, you can build firewalls around the banks, and try to make sure that any losses on the bonds are not catastrophic for the financial system. You can boost the Stability Facility, and make sure that the IMF is on standby to hose down any fires that start to break out. You can line up a few emergency summits to solemnly declare that even though the Greeks might be out, there is no way the Portuguese or the Irish are going to follow them, and certainly not the Italians or the Spanish.
The trouble is, you can’t really know how it will play out. No one has tried breaking up a single currency before. Money may start to flee out of every country at risk of coming out of the euro. Fiats may start loading up with bank notes and driving across the border to deposit Italian euros in German banks, and Seat’s with Spanish euros to go into French banks. It won’t make much sense to keep any cash in a country at risk. A full-scale bank run could easily get out of control, and blow up the best-laid plans in hours.
Next, the Greek economy may collapse completely, and society with it. A hastily re-introduced drachma will be worth nothing. Greece may not be able to pay for petrol for police cars or medicines for the hospitals. Law and order could break down. Floods of refugees may start to stream across the borders. No one has any real idea what will happen, but it could be very bad. And worst of all, the EU and Germany in particular, will get the blame for it.
There is, of course, an alternative. The Greeks can’t carry on with the austerity being imposed on them. No country can be expected to endure annualized falls in GDP of 7% or more and 50% youth unemployment for years on end. It simply isn’t acceptable.
But Germany and the rest of the EU could come up with a Marshall Plan-style package for Greece. Very little of the bailout money so far has gone to the Greeks. It has all gone to the bankers. A 23 billion euro package (the equivalent of 10% of Greece’s shrunken GDP) to reflate the economy would buy Greece some time.
It might not work in the medium-term; in fact, it will make things worse. But in a crisis, politicians work on very short time scales. What’s better? The risk of a full-scale catastrophe? Or a 23 billion euro bailout package that buys you breathing space?
Forget talk of a ‘Grexit’. There will be a mega-bailout — a “Grashall Plan” — instead. And when it happens, the markets will rally on the news.
Matthew Lynn is chief executive of Strategy Economics, a London-based consultancy. His latest book, ‘The Long Depression: The Slump of 2008 to 2031,’ is published by Endeavour Press.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/germany-will-blink-and-wont-let-greece-exit-euro-2012-05-16
Methinks he's whistling in the dark
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=YyhGtKAkNTo
A little odd for a finance guy to 'misremember' one of the primary purposes of the Marshall Plan, finding an outlet for piles of US capital.
Dhalgren
05-16-2012, 01:16 PM
A little odd for a finance guy to 'misremember' one of the primary purposes of the Marshall Plan, finding an outlet for piles of US capital.
Not really odd. These guys start out with an idea and then spin tales to back it up. They redefine words and concepts, make-up shit out of whole cloth, ignore and willfully blind themselves to all reality - only to keep their little dreams alive. The fact that any kind of "bailout" from Germany to Greece in 2012 will have no comparison to "The Marshal Plan" just gets in the way of his whistling past the graveyard (or would he say "Greeveyard"?). He just blows past the observation that zero money, so far, has gone to Greece, but only to the banks. What? The Greek people are being forced into a brutal austerity and the only "bailout" money has gone to banks? That can't be right... Doesn't matter, let's make funny words out of combining "Gr" with anything at all. That is so cool...er...Grool...
anaxarchos
05-17-2012, 04:36 PM
With eyes fully open, Merkel and Sarkozy "focused" on paying off French and German banks with Greek austerity. Now, in honor of Hollande, they will "focus" on paying off French and German banks with Greek "growth policy".
The details won't be that different either...
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