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Allen17
03-31-2016, 06:25 PM
From where I sit, it cannot be denied that a working class revolutionary struggle is, in an aggressively globalized capitalist economy, necessarily a global struggle. I don't mean that, of course, in some Utopian Trotskyite sense of a masturbatory exercise about "world revolution." Rather, I am stressing the urgency of working with and learning from working people in all corners of the globe, and how the class struggle operates in each particular local context.

Obviously, it will take more than a small number of radicals to do this; we need organization and program. But, I think there is much opportunity here. How, for example, do workers in Tanzania or El Salvador or the Philippines apply Marxist class analysis to their local contexts? What lessons can we in the "West" learn from them - and potentially, vice versa?

Just some thoughts....

Dhalgren
04-01-2016, 10:34 AM
From where I sit, it cannot be denied that a working class revolutionary struggle is, in an aggressively globalized capitalist economy, necessarily a global struggle. I don't mean that, of course, in some Utopian Trotskyite sense of a masturbatory exercise about "world revolution." Rather, I am stressing the urgency of working with and learning from working people in all corners of the globe, and how the class struggle operates in each particular local context.

Obviously, it will take more than a small number of radicals to do this; we need organization and program. But, I think there is much opportunity here. How, for example, do workers in Tanzania or El Salvador or the Philippines apply Marxist class analysis to their local contexts? What lessons can we in the "West" learn from them - and potentially, vice versa?

Just some thoughts....

Excellent thoughts. Keep it up and let us know what you think - we need everyone to pull in the same direction. And that does mean everyone in the world.

You know, we should start a thread on labor organizing in the world. See what is happening and what it means.

Allen17
04-19-2016, 04:07 PM
Excellent thoughts. Keep it up and let us know what you think - we need everyone to pull in the same direction. And that does mean everyone in the world.

You know, we should start a thread on labor organizing in the world. See what is happening and what it means.

Thanks. This whole Sanders phenomenon has really gotten me pondering what the role of young people (my generation) is, or will be, in a potential mass Left movement. As idealistic and naive as the Sanders crowd is, there is a real sense of impatience among many of his supporters for action and for demanding change - radical change, in fact. From what I have observed, a significant segment of the younger crowd is slowly but surely realizing that there are no prospects for "hope" or "change" in terms of "working within the system." I'm just anticipating the inevitable endorsement of Clinton (and the entire imperialist agenda of Capital) by Sanders.

There are, in my estimation, two possibilities regarding the younger generation who have generally supported Sanders: the energy that galvanized his campaign will dissipate following the complete integration of Sanders and co. into the Democratic Party apparatus, or his supporters will realize their mistake of "working within the system" and search for something more radical, more confrontational toward Capital, and uncompromising in its defense of the working class - of which the younger generation and Sanders supporters in general are disproportionately a part of, from what I've observed.

I am actually somewhat optimistic that the young people will become more radical, and that that will happen sooner than many think. However, that is contingent on there being a radical organization that has teeth and efficacy, and what passes for the Left in this country has been utterly defanged (if not completely co-opted so as to be only an obstacle to radical organization of the working class). Thus, who remain are the sad saps like Webb. That's not gonna cut it.