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Two Americas
10-21-2010, 12:46 PM
Yep. Seeing any down you way today, Megan?

Nothing sticking on the ground yet, but it wouldn't surprise me to wake up to a winter wonderland tomorrow morning.

TBF
10-21-2010, 04:42 PM
we've had no rain and the ragweed has damn near killed me. You'll have to post pictures of snow if you get some!

BitterLittleFlower
10-21-2010, 06:55 PM
had to scrape my car for the first time yesterday...
I tell you, the acorns are very plentiful and HUGE, never saw them so big...my 83 yo mother even commented on the size...seems like a harbinger to me...

blindpig
10-22-2010, 04:57 AM
but dry as a bone. Our mast crop is so-so, mostly very dry summer, but the first in three years. Must not be much out there, the deer are already at the ivy near the house and that don't usually happen until late winter. They annihilated the hostas. Say it's gonna be a cold one, though I guess that's a laugher compared to what ya'll put up with, I'd be much happier at the latitude of Habana.

meganmonkey
10-22-2010, 08:33 AM
:rofl:

Um, it's still summer, okay, SUMMER. I am not ready for this winter. I can't believe its the end of october right now.

We've had freezing temps overnight this week but no sign of flakes yet, thank goodness. We're supposed to get rain over the next few days - temps are going up. So no snow in the near future.

My birthday is next week and I've seen snow on my birthday, and I've had a picnic in short sleeves on my birthday.

Ya know what they say, if you don't like the weather in michigan, just wait a few hours :)

Two Americas
10-28-2010, 11:15 AM
Big storm just went through - 75 mph plus winds, pretty wild. Trees down, power out. Talking to young locals this morning struggling to keep their kids warm and fed. 30 degrees is not unusual for northern Michigan and not so cold - until you don't have heat. The problem is there is less and less "cushion" - when you have to scramble around to deal with an emergency, spend money, miss work - there goes your already tight monthly budget, and it is only October. Jobs are fewer, many out of work, farms working with smaller and smaller crews and letting everyone go earlier this year than ever before, with the infrastructure in worse shape every year heading into winter, emergency crews with shorter staffs, relief agencies strapped for funds and with fewer workers...

Overheard some farmers talking this morning. The two topics - first, the feds are forcing them all to fence in their properties (FDA regulation - no animals on farms) and secondly how they are getting screwed on the money they were promised for oil leases and consensus now that the water is ruined from fracking.

Dhalgren
10-28-2010, 06:50 PM
"Austerity" ain't going to have much bite if everyone is already on the bread-line...

blindpig
01-10-2011, 04:33 AM
Looks like 3-4" already, this county gonna be paralyzed for at least 2 days, predicted totals 8-10" with a crust of ice to boot. Feed the fireplace and the birdies, listen to Slavic folk music, mebbe sip some springwater and reflect upon the gates of Moscow, 1941. Here come the Siberians....

TBF
01-10-2011, 05:40 AM
I heard Atlanta was bracing for a storm. stay warm!

Dhalgren
01-10-2011, 10:30 AM
Predict temps as low as 10 degrees by Thursday. We are complete shut-ins. Got some good booze, though, so may be okay...

Edit - sausage fingers...

Two Americas
01-10-2011, 10:31 AM
What the hell? You have more than we do. We got down below zero the other night for the first time.

BitterLittleFlower
01-10-2011, 02:42 PM
Tuesday night looks bad but we only got 5 Friday, but the roads were treacherous because of the wind. People are gonna freeze in Alabama, are they prepared for this?? WTF. Take it easy, keep warm, don't eat those sausage fingers....or any torties...

Dhalgren
01-10-2011, 03:11 PM
temps after midnight Friday morning going as low as 5 degrees and not ruling out zero in some mountain areas. Might be hyperbole, but it is gettin' cold. My wife's brother from Minneapolis called day before yesterday and it was not all that much colder in the Twins than here. Maybe IT IS the End Times! Shit I wanted to see the revolution first...

starry messenger
01-10-2011, 03:49 PM
out here in Frontierland. :hide:

BitterLittleFlower
01-11-2011, 04:54 AM
is holding her own revolution! Or would that be Gaia? ;)

TBF
01-11-2011, 05:29 AM
you'll want to wait until 11-11-11 for all hell to break loose. ;)

blindpig
01-12-2011, 06:48 AM
Roads were still an ice rink yesterday morning, negotiable this morning at 20mph. So I made it to work and can use the internets again, did I mention how bad my land line is? This was the only thread I could open from the house in less than 15 minutes....don't even want to think about the Obama thread, probably about an hour. I got some catching up to do.

blindpig
01-12-2011, 06:55 AM
I should talk...but truth is until the last couple of years we'd had virtually no snow for the previous decade and it was rare to go below 20F, 14F this morning. Just a blip on the radar, the same myopic view which sees 'the New Deal' as the baseline of American politics will dismiss climate change after 2 years of non-warming.

BitterLittleFlower
01-20-2011, 03:58 PM
the past couple days the trees are all still holding the coating of ice from a storm Tuesday as it's so cold. The snow has been sticking to the ice, so the trees are frosted really pretty. Today the sun came out, mackeral sky along with it, and the trees were glittering like crazy, amazingly, painfully beautiful.

When I drove by the prison with it's razor wire, they were competing in beauty with the trees lined up next to them, glittering just as hard...but the hardness is real...the painfullness real...

Two Americas
01-20-2011, 09:53 PM
News from the frozen tundra...

We have only had sun briefly, an hour or so a couple of times, otherwise overcast for 7 weeks now. Flurries just about every day through that stretch.

Getting slammed again with snow tonight, and we are having a spell of temps around zero for a few days with a lot of wind and with snow predicted every day. About 5 degrees right now, winds about 30. Looks like about 4 inches have come down tonight, and it is still coming down heavy.

This is the hang on for dear life time of the year.

BitterLittleFlower
01-21-2011, 01:49 PM
sounds like your windchill is close to minus 25, stay in if you can! keep warm.

starry messenger
01-21-2011, 02:20 PM
I'd be totally stir crazy. I'll send warm thoughts. :D

Two Americas
01-23-2011, 09:27 AM
31 degrees below zero last night. It is up to -10 now.

chlamor
01-24-2011, 10:34 AM
Yesterday's high was 8 degrees. Lots of snow.

Not sure why but I dig the below zero temps, like going outside and walking in the tundra. But when it's 42 and rainy I'm indoors and cold. Never been in negative 30 though. Sounds pretty wicked.

TBF
01-24-2011, 11:03 AM
and the dog doesn't even want to go out. He's snoozing on the living room sofa ...

I don't miss those cold Wisconsin days. We had a blizzard my last year in college (87-88) that brought massive snow and very cold wind chills. Others were outside on snowshoes, while I was inside plotting how I could move somewhere warmer.

Two Americas
01-24-2011, 03:00 PM
The lowest temperature I had been in before was -22. I went out about dawn Sunday morning and immediately realized that this was something I had never experienced. -30 feels very different than -20. I guess that in Traverse and closer to the lake it only got down to -20 or so. Pellston, which is more inland, hit -40. There was one low spot in the orchard that hit -31 right after dawn. That will do some damage to the trees.

A lot of snow on the ground, and with the wind it is drifting so driving has been bad. My little Saturn got stuck 4 times in drifts and it took me an hour to get it out from one of the drifts - first time that has happened over 5 winters. Then I had a flat tire at 11:30 pm in the middle of nowhere and the windshield wipers quit.

I was telling a friend in California last Fall that there are three bad aspects to northern Michigan winters. First, dreading it in November. Then, there is a stretch of a few days in late January or early February that is a matter of life and death. Lastly, there comes a time in April when there is a blizzard and a cold snap and you say "haven't we had about enough of this?"

blindpig
01-24-2011, 03:39 PM
We should have left the Northern Hemisphere to the Neanderthals.

I guess it's bracing or something but if I never again experienced the bottom side of 60F I'd be a very happy man.

Iquitos, Peru: high 91F, low 72F, that's what I'm talking about.

No wonder the Scandinavians kill themselves.

starry messenger
01-24-2011, 04:44 PM
Hibernation?

My one cold snow experience was an unexpected layover in St. Louis on the way to see grandma in Ohio for Christmas in 1990. It was 17, but I thought "Well, cold is cold right? What difference could it possibly make once everything is frozen anyway?"

I went outside with my dad and brother to get the shuttle and took in a lungful of air. I thought my lungs had died. My father thought it was hilarious.


The road conditions sound appalling. I hope you stay safe! You're supposed to have partly sunny tomorrow, high of 31: http://www.mlive.com/weather/index.ssf?zipcode=49501

BitterLittleFlower
01-24-2011, 06:11 PM
cold and snowy, below zero, hot and sunny, close to 80, I've seen both in NY, usually it's November's twin around here.

-15 here too last night...I like the shrivel in my nostrils...

TBF
02-01-2011, 05:44 PM
when it's this cold in Houston it's gotta be brutal up north.

http://vortex.accuweather.com/adc2004/pub/includes/columns/newsstory/2011/400x266_02012021_nestormwed.jpg

BitterLittleFlower
02-01-2011, 09:38 PM
snow day today, and for the first time that I recall for this district, school was called off for tomorrow early evening tonight...

lots of snow, but it's the wintry mix that we'll get tomorrow that I hate... low teens temp wise... thinking about the homeless a lot tonight...

Two Americas
02-02-2011, 08:40 AM
Pretty warm this morning, maybe 15. The heavy snow stayed to the south of us, but Megan and BLF and chlamor must be getting hit hard. Schools closed here because of the blowing snow and bad visibility. Sun trying to come out - beautiful scenes with the snow drifted up and sculpted everywhere like sand dunes.

TBF
02-02-2011, 08:58 AM
Just took the dog out, Labradors love this weather. We have rolling blackouts, though, to help out the rest of the state. It is very flat up in Dallas and they've had bad ice storms the past couple of days. Everything is closed up there.

Two Americas
02-02-2011, 12:52 PM
25 degrees way down there? How common is that?

TBF
02-02-2011, 04:07 PM
and the power companies seem to be having trouble (we normally only have outages during hurricane system). They are doing rolling outages ... you know the capitalists, they have a super bowl to put on Sunday.

runs with scissors
04-08-2011, 03:17 AM
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