The World Socialist Web Site spoke to participants in the Albuquerque protest.

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All Trump clownishness and demagoguery aside, how do you think these protests are going over in the public eye? I know that most liberals I run into think that this shows Trump cannot win (they sound kind of like whistling past the graveyard, especially since Clinton may be indicted). But the right-wingers I talk to think these protesters should be deported - thinking most of them are not "citizens". There is a good deal of hatred forming (may have already been there) against these anti-Trump "hippies" "out there".

I can't get a handle on how volatile a situation this actually is. Do the protesters think Trump might win, and so are trying to show that he cannot govern? Or do they simply oppose him to the point where they will protest his very existence anywhere, any time?

This might be a great opportunity for growing a real left in this country, even as dangerous as it all is. At some point, the heart of darkness has got to erupt, could Trump be the catalyst? I will admit that my "crystal ball" ain't working even a little.

All Trump clownishness and demagoguery aside, how do you think these protests are going over in the public eye? I know that most liberals I run into think that this shows Trump cannot win (they sound kind of like whistling past the graveyard, especially since Clinton may be indicted). But the right-wingers I talk to think these protesters should be deported - thinking most of them are not "citizens". There is a good deal of hatred forming (may have already been there) against these anti-Trump "hippies" "out there".

I can't get a handle on how volatile a situation this actually is. Do the protesters think Trump might win, and so are trying to show that he cannot govern? Or do they simply oppose him to the point where they will protest his very existence anywhere, any time?

This might be a great opportunity for growing a real left in this country, even as dangerous as it all is. At some point, the heart of darkness has got to erupt, could Trump be the catalyst? I will admit that my "crystal ball" ain't working even a little.

Goddamn if I know. I gotta think that Trump + Bernie show that all is not well in Emerald City. What I can't figure about Trump is that his lies are so baldfaced, to the point of contempt for his audience. He misquotes the bible at Liberty U, exaggeratedly tells the NRA "I love the 2nd Admendment!" Yet people seem unfazed, what's up with that? Are people so conditioned by the over the top bogusness of reality TV that they can no longer discern this?

It's like the 60s all over again, with the media going all out to put any protest in the worst possible light. The lack of organization and focus doesn't help at all, it is righteous tantrum, not politics.

it is righteous tantrum, not politics.

Unfortunately you are dead right.

Goddamn if I know. I gotta think that Trump + Bernie show that all is not well in Emerald City. What I can't figure about Trump is that his lies are so baldfaced, to the point of contempt for his audience. He misquotes the bible at Liberty U, exaggeratedly tells the NRA "I love the 2nd Admendment!" Yet people seem unfazed, what's up with that? Are people so conditioned by the over the top bogusness of reality TV that they can no longer discern this?

It's like the 60s all over again, with the media going all out to put any protest in the worst possible light. The lack of organization and focus doesn't help at all, it is righteous tantrum, not politics.

Perhaps Red Kahina, when talking about Zizek's recent racist antics at Left Forum, also describes Trump's behavior: "...the very flimsiness of excuses is also a thrill as they signal the JimCrow power to impose their irrational will." That would fit with the ego-maniac that we know Trump is.

Now, to puzzle out why his fans tolerate this disrespect.

Perhaps Red Kahina, when talking about Zizek's recent racist antics at Left Forum, also describes Trump's behavior: "...the very flimsiness of excuses is also a thrill as they signal the JimCrow power to impose their irrational will." That would fit with the ego-maniac that we know Trump is.

Now, to puzzle out why his fans tolerate this disrespect.

Well, Trump's "disrespect" is of a different caliber than the disrespect the average citizen has received at the hands of the "traditional" politicians. Think Huey Long. Trump is saying things that titillate the US "average Joe"; Trump talks about the things "real" Republicans talk about all the time. Now, in the past, the Republican candidate would use dog-whistles and code phrases to let the unwashed know what he/she meant - all along both candidates and voters knew he/she was lying through their teeth - but since the candidate had not actually said anything real, he couldn't be held to anything: "That's not what I said, if you will replay the statement you will see..." But here comes Trump, no dog-whistles, he just flat-out says what the trained Republican has been thinking for decades. Of course, Trump is lying, but he is lying outright, and in an odd kind of way, Republican voters (and a lot of independents) give him credit for it.

Well, Trump's "disrespect" is of a different caliber than the disrespect the average citizen has received at the hands of the "traditional" politicians. Think Huey Long. Trump is saying things that titillate the US "average Joe"; Trump talks about the things "real" Republicans talk about all the time. Now, in the past, the Republican candidate would use dog-whistles and code phrases to let the unwashed know what he/she meant - all along both candidates and voters knew he/she was lying through their teeth - but since the candidate had not actually said anything real, he couldn't be held to anything: "That's not what I said, if you will replay the statement you will see..." But here comes Trump, no dog-whistles, he just flat-out says what the trained Republican has been thinking for decades. Of course, Trump is lying, but he is lying outright, and in an odd kind of way, Republican voters (and a lot of independents) give him credit for it.

I still don't get it. They give him credit for treating them like complete rubes? For repeatedly denying he said a ton of stuff that is public record? Unlike Long's time all of this is easily verifiable. All the politicians play us for fools but this 'C' list acting, the cheap drama of reality TV, is insulting. Other than the racism, and many of the legitimate economic gripes will be dressed in racist drag, the utterly empty nationalism, he got nothing. I do not see the attraction in an ironic demagogue who smirks at his own flimsy lies shamelessly in the manner of a spoiled rich kid who knows he can get away with it. But then, I've always hated the rich.

PS. Heard this morning that at a presser he called a Lakota woman "Pocahontas". Ya can't make this shit up.
Guess that seals the rancher vote.

PS. Heard this morning that at a presser he called a Lakota woman "Pocahontas". Ya can't make this shit up.
Guess that seals the rancher vote.

The rancher vote is all he cares about. Fuck the Indians - they either don't vote or won't vote for Richie fucking Rich...

A number of commentators see the Trump base as being poor or lower working class whites but I suspect this to be incorrect. To be sure these groups are present in Trumps following but a large portion and definitely the core of Trump's following are the usual suspects: lower middle class and de-classed middle class. Same people I saw at a local Bachman rally a few years back.