Footnotes from the Ukrainian "Crisis"; New High-Points in Cynicism Part IV

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Post by blindpig » Sun Jul 28, 2019 2:11 pm

A few translated replies to Beness Aiijo's post below
These are all Donetsk native's.

'Beness Aijo
yesterday at 12:39 am

The people and the Army of Donbass - for integration with Russia !!!

Unfortunately, today's rally is canceled ...
Dear comrades, as the organizers of our event stated, some bourgeois pro-Ukrainian "biak" decided to thwart our rally demanding that Vladimir Putin recognize the NPT and the LPR! According to some data, today, on July 27, 2019, the administration of the city of Donetsk on Lenin Square at 11:00 agreed on some other event. This was announced only on July 26, although we submitted an application to hold our legal and peaceful action on July 18. There is a disgusting provocation - spitting in the face of the people LDNR, Russia and the entire post-Soviet space !!
Probably certain reactionary political forces are afraid that under the pressure of millions of LDNR residents who were going to demand integration of Donbass with Russia from the Russian authorities, Vladimir Putin could recognize LDNR and protect his compatriots. And the reactionaries want to go back to dill ...
Well, well !! We, the people of LDNR, are outraged by such vile provocations. We will seek truth in the courts and in the near future we will file a formal application for holding our action at another time.
We act strictly in accordance with the laws of the DPR and the norms of international law.

The people and the Army of Donbass - for integration with Russia !!!
Georgy gursky
When will you all wake up and get out of the state of Morok and realize yourself as citizens of the USSR? !!!!!!!!!!!!
Čurakentij Šukač
And have you already woken up in the Russian Federation, came out and realized under the strict guidance of the Solarel Genius
Irina Lange replied to Čurakentij

Čurakentij , if we take the genacid of the population as a sensitive guide, then many will feel. Meetings and strikes do not subside. .It was very painful and insulting. Putin is a liar. When Krymnash was, he said that he would not give up the Russian-speaking population of Donbass. Since then, nothing has changed.

Čurakentij Šukač replied to Čurakentij

Irina, absolutely agree with you. I will only add that the Greatest Grand Master and the Multi-Trader are not just a liar, but a coward, a rag and Judas. It is useless to ask him to recognize or join the LDNR, he will never do this, because he is the same puppet of the West, like his "respected Ukrainian partners." Well, except that some big force majeure happens. It is not necessary to hope for a quick regime change in the Russian Federation, therefore, the Donbass will long remain an object of foreign policy and inter-oligarchic trade fairs. And by the way, not the “Russian-speaking population” lives in the Donbass, and for the most part there are Russian people, much more Russians than in the Russian Federation itself."
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Re: Footnotes from the Ukrainian "Crisis"; New High-Points in Cynicism Part IV

Post by blindpig » Fri Aug 02, 2019 1:28 pm

In Donetsk, there was a national gathering against the flash mob "Choice of Donbass"

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No Ukraine and no Zelensky

In the capital of the DPR, a popular gathering of citizens opposing the action “Zelensky, recognize the choice of Donbass” took place on Lenin Square.

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The event was attended by about 200 people. People came out with flags of the DPR, the Soviet Union, the Russian Federation and various public organizations. The First People’s Defense Minister Igor Hakimzyanov, the American volunteer and war correspondent Russell “Texas” Bentley, the head of the “Communist Party of the DPR” Boris Litvinov, the volunteer from Latvia Beness Ayo took part in the people's gathering.

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As the organizers of the event stated, the purpose of the rally was an appeal to Russian President Vladimir Putin. The action participants called for recognition of the results of the Referendum on May 11, 2014 on the independence of the Donetsk People's Republic. Another reason for this action was the notorious Zelensky flash mob, acknowledge the choice of Donbass. The action participants chanted “Russia, Russia”.

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The organizers of the gathering had planned to hold a rally, but since they could not collect the necessary documents allowing the holding of the rally by the date announced in advance, they had to hold a national gathering.

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“Nevertheless, a popular gathering will take place tomorrow, at which a new organizing committee for holding the rally“ Putin, acknowledge the choice of Donbass ”will be created, which will take into account all the shortcomings in organizing this event and submit a new application for holding the rally“ Putin, recognize the choice of Donbass ”. If the authorities of the DPR think that in this way they can level people’s desire to express their opinion, then this is far from being the case. An application for holding the rally "Putin, acknowledge the choice of Donbass" will be submitted until it is held, because this is a logical consequence of the flash mob - an appeal to Zelensky. People want to express their opinion, different from this flash mob, because this flash mob does not reflect the opinion of the majority of Donbass residents, ”the organizer of the meeting wrote, Elena Korovkina.

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Another obstacle for the rally was the event of the people's team. At the same time as the rally, were appointed competitions athletes. Music played loudly on Lenin Square while the young people played football, basketball, tugged at the rope and boxed.

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Members of the People’s Council of the DPR Valery Skorokhodov came out to the participants of the assembly of the people. The deputy stated that the organizers had not agreed to hold the rally with the city authorities, therefore, the action is illegal.

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The popular movement moved from Lenin Square to the intersection of Artyom Street and Gurov Avenue. There, a volunteer from Latvia, Beness Ayo, spoke to the audience.

People meeting lasted only an hour. After 1:00 pm the participants began to disperse. Elena Korovkina once again reminded that they will continue to apply for a rally in the future.

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Re: Footnotes from the Ukrainian "Crisis"; New High-Points in Cynicism Part IV

Post by blindpig » Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:53 pm

Chronicles of the war in the Donbass. Cartilaginous (August 13-14, 2014)
war, politics, geopolitics, color revolutions
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August 13, 13:36
Memoirs of a participant in the events of the battle in the Khryaschevaty district in August 2014 ...

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"From my own memories;

on August 13, 2014, before lunch, the commander of the BTG battalion" ZARYA "ordered two BMP-2s to leave on Oboronnaya St. and follow the Toyota Land Cruiser.

Having followed him from Khryaschevatoye, before reaching Novosvetlovka, landing near the sunflower field. There was a small detachment of infantry and passenger cars.

Get a team from the commander of a reconnaissance expect a breakthrough from the field. moved from place to place gunner commander and began to observe toward a possible breakthrough by landing (with a counter field zhennoy side expected breakthrough).

According to us, the tank from the cannon and the PKT (basically the flight) began to “work”, but with each shot the gaps were getting closer to our BMP. The commander of the second BMP on the radio gave a command to retreat, after a shell exploded next to his car, so much so that the land was thrown into the tower.

We retreated behind the Cartilage closer to Lugansk, there were already beginning to pull together militia forces, there were no armored vehicles, UAZs with cliffs.

After some time, the commander of the reconnaissance squad approached me again and said:

"Now we’ll go to Khryaschevatoye for reconnaissance, if there are tanks, then we’ll leave."

Infantry is loaded onto my car, the second infantry fighting vehicle is behind, we climb into the village, get to the second bus stop (from Lugansk). At this moment, I lean out of the tower and tell the reconnaissance commander that I have an ATGM installation, he nods his head, turns around, just sits down in his seat as the commander starts knocking on my headset and screaming

"Tank, fucking .. ., tank! "

Then he completely tears off the headset from me (laryngophones were weakened), I look at the sight — there is a tank in front of me, I wanted to raise the headset and tell the driver to turn around, but then I realized that once, I opened fire on the tank with single 30 mm tanks, the tank didn’t answer me . He made 31 shots of OFZ (my tray was empty, then counted “crabs”), the infantry jumped from the infantry fighting vehicle on the move and crumbled, then on foot everyone retreated without loss, the second infantry fighting vehicle turned around and left, after I fired, we turned around and left closer to Lugansk.

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By that time, ours had already tightened their forces.

From the vehicles we were approached by two T-64BVs with tail numbers 11 and 23. We took a position near the stele with the inscription "Lugansk" on the side of the oncoming lane.

A tank with hull number 23 was opposite across the road closer to landing, fired towards the Khryaschevatoye village, but I had a poor view, I didn’t observe targets, after a while mortar mines began to fly towards our infantry fighting vehicle, after four misses the mechanic decided not to test fate and changed position. In the future, the position was changed several times, nothing special happened, it soon darkened.

Soon he received further instructions: in case of the offensive of the Ukrainian side, do not open fire, do not give out your position, wait until they come very close, only the highway firing sector, do not open fire upon landing.

After a while, another order arrived: at 03:00 in the morning there will be artillery fire, followed by a green flare, after which we must advance to storm the village.

At three o'clock several shots of artillery followed, there was no signal rocket, only an hour later it appeared, but no one advanced from the position, morning came.

I received an order to advance to Cartilaginous, landing on my car was loaded, among which there was one woman.

I have an order: before reaching the village, stop the car, wait until people are in a hurry and continue driving.

So: two tanks, two infantry fighting vehicles and two armored personnel carriers with infantry on board went to the village.

The first tank with b.n. 23, my car was behind him, the 23rd stopped, started firing, our infantry was on both sides of the road.

We were fired from small arms from unfinished buildings to the right of the highway, just a couple of RPG shots came from there, the tank shot in the other direction.

The infantry asked me to work on the buildings from which the fire was fired, but the gun jammed at the most inopportune moment, I contacted another machine on the walkie-talkie, and the crew complied with my request, after a few minutes I saw the shell arrive at our port side On the 23rd, flames puffed out of the engine compartment. After some time we received a withdrawal command, we moved to Lugansk. "

(see video at link)

author Danver link https://lostarmour.info/articles/hryaschevatoe/ To provide

assistance to the defenders of Donbass in the fight against punitive punishment:
1. Sberbank card 4276380053782368
2. Yandex-wallet 410012273300268
3. To MTS phone number (not Qiwi) +79780454589

Military humanitarian help center for units of the LNR and DNR Armed Forces
post on military humanitarian work https://centercigr.livejournal.com/153337.html
Humanitarian assistance group on VK https://vk.com/militarydonbass and on Twitter https: // twitter.com/militarydonbass
Telegrams across the Donbass: https://t.me/WarDonbass

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Post by blindpig » Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:55 am

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08/15/19. Note from the blogger "Donbass is Russia."

“I don’t even know what to call, but the article is important for everyone to understand: civilians, military, residents of Donbass and the Russian Federation. First, some historical events to remember, and then the essence of the article. After leaving Slavyansk to Donetsk, the militias saw a peaceful a city not ready for war, and even it was such that some battalions with their weapons remained in Donetsk, doing nothing for his future defense, but this is at first glance. In the DPR, there were internal processes that were not visible to ordinary residents and most of the militias, well written about in ntervyu former Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs of the DNI Boris Borisov:
“... The reason is simple - that there were no people who would understand the impending political dangers. There they looked towards Russia with open eyes and with hope. And they were waiting for help. Like in the Crimea. No one expected action from Russia to destroy democracy in the DPR and LPR. I will explain. Several people from the Transdniestrian Moldavian Republic were co-opted into the government of the Donetsk People’s Republic. Locals sometimes called them “Moldavians”, although they are not Moldovans by nationality. They did not share the experience. The task was different. They stopped by recommendation from Moscow's Old Square. It was they who prepared the site for the arrival of the Moscow "curators" in the DPR. And when the curators stopped by and strengthened there, they, first of all, took control of such an organization as the Ministry of State Security, dismissing the local Donetsk special committee, the predecessor of the MGB.
But only if it is discounted, that, firstly, the people of Donbass just promised everything. Quite the contrary - nobody promised anything to Crimea beforehand. But Donbass, on the contrary, was promised, and at the highest level, they gave out promise after promise. For example, in March 2014 by V.V. Putin at a meeting with correspondents, and later the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs repeated all this in a statement - protection and support were promised in case of aggression from Kiev. Secondly, all the statements that were made from Moscow during this period and which reached the republic indicated that the Crimean scenario was supported from Moscow. Moreover, senior parliamentarians, at the level of heads of State Duma committees, came, clapped local bosses on the shoulder and said: “Yes, yes, yes. Crimean scenario. Only a little slower, we are working. ” All this was.
At the end of the summer of 2014, when preparations for the Minsk agreements began and the republic’s political field was cleaned up, the “Moscow curators” there cleaned up everyone who could show political resistance to the upcoming Minsk, starting with Strelkov and the people of Gubarev, as the most implacable supporters of New Russia. And then twice replaced the Constitution of the DPR. At first - the first substitution - they limited the power of the Supreme Council and introduced such a structure as the Presidium of the Government, to which a number of functions were transferred. Then the Constitution was changed again, because this was not enough. They introduced the post of the Head of the Republic, which previously was not. And in fact, without asking the opinion of the people, without any procedure and without a vote in the Supreme Council, they made an authoritarian state out of a parliamentary republic. And, two weeks after the first Minsk,

And an interview with Aleksei Georgievich Aleksandrov, ex-head of the apparatus of the People’s Council of the DPR: “We are opposed at the front and in the rear by an enemy of colossal strength and experience. And Purgin and his team, although we were preparing the Russian spring in the Donbass of the last 10 years, we worked practically without help, as they say “on the knee”. And (now you can honestly admit) - without the belief that this will happen during our lifetime. There was no long-term program. Worked more for the future. Therefore, in 2014 there was only one plan: to hold a referendum and - to Russia. We, as organizers and active participants in the events, can testify - only the determination of the people of Donbass helped us to die, but not to surrender. Who saw the referendum on May 11, he will understand me ... The trouble came in the guise of Beard ... Soon, Boroday reappeared with credentials from "respected people" from Moscow. Authoritative calls followed with requests, orders to accept and appoint him. He himself loudly declared that they say "a special operation of the special services of the Russian Federation is underway in Donbass, everyone is afraid, he is responsible for the transfer of special forces units to the Donbass", etc., etc. The belief in the Crimean version and the lightning fast accession to Russia was so strong that almost everyone believed in this nonsense (all the more so since almost all the time they called in support of the raiders from “Moscow itself!”) ... We almost managed to reverse the situation after our oath and the beginning of creation a single Military Council of scattered field commanders. But it frightened many, walkers were pulled into the High Cabinets, and the process was suspended. Here is an example: during the Slavic epic about 30 thousand applications from volunteers for joining the militia were collected. I have reached an agreement with a sufficiently large number of active military and reserve officers. The creation of the Army of New Russia on the basis of the Strelkov brigade was a matter of several weeks. The process was lowered to the brakes. Lists of volunteers disappeared somewhere. And one of his generators, Sasha Proselkov, was treacherously shot (the killer is “not found” so far). We were ordered to wait - everything is supposedly being decided at the very top. But nothing happened. The Russians insisted on the familiar, leaderly, vertically integrated version. ” I have reached an agreement with a sufficiently large number of active military and reserve officers. The creation of the Army of New Russia on the basis of the Strelkov brigade was a matter of several weeks. The process was lowered to the brakes. Lists of volunteers disappeared somewhere. And one of his generators, Sasha Proselkov, was treacherously shot (the killer is “not found” so far). We were ordered to wait - everything is supposedly being decided at the very top. But nothing happened. The Russians insisted on the familiar, leaderly, vertically integrated version. ” I have reached an agreement with a sufficiently large number of active military and reserve officers. The creation of the Army of New Russia on the basis of the Strelkov brigade was a matter of several weeks. The process was lowered to the brakes. Lists of volunteers disappeared somewhere. And one of his generators, Sasha Proselkov, was treacherously shot (the killer is “not found” so far). We were ordered to wait - everything is supposedly being decided at the very top. But nothing happened. The Russians insisted on the familiar, leaderly, vertically integrated version. ” We were ordered to wait - everything is supposedly being decided at the very top. But nothing happened. The Russians insisted on the familiar, leaderly, vertically integrated version. ” We were ordered to wait - everything is supposedly being decided at the very top. But nothing happened. The Russians insisted on the familiar, leaderly, vertically integrated version. ”

I will continue not with my own thought, the only thing is that I will make some of my additions that do not distort the essence, but convey this idea in more detail and clearly:
Now we can say with confidence that it would be if only here, in the Donbass, everyone stood up as one. But it would be the same as we have now. Our primary task was to liberate the territory where the referendum was held and to reach the borders of the regions, for we were guided by the democratic principle - the expression of the will of the people. We could go further only if the other regions wished to follow our path, but, in any case, the initiative should have come from them. So, let's simulate a different scenario. The number of militias, for example, is five times higher than in the summer of the 14th. In some miraculous way, ignoring Moscow, not having the necessary experience, military resources in the right quantity and clear organization (you’ve already read how our “friends” helped us organize the militia), militia still goes to the borders of the regions. The uprisings in other regions of Novorossia have long been suppressed, the entire asset is in jail, two or three dozen underground members will not play any role, and they subsequently transferred to the LPR. As a result, there can be no popular initiative and requests from there, because the uprisings are "merged", and in the regions SBU and gangs of nationalists are operating. Donbass’s military resources were running out, and they weren’t really there, recall from Mozgovoy: “By and large, we are now at the same level as at the beginning. Then they went at us with armored personnel carriers, and we had only Kalash and sticks. Now they have learned to fight, they have powerful weapons, electronics. Our tankers did not even see tanks, and tanks did not see diesel fuel. And during these months, the fighters did not have the opportunity to ride them, but at least start up and drown them out because the tanks were dry. "So, even taking into account the taking of warehouses, at the time of access to the borders, there is still not enough resources for a long time to keep the border, because a whole state is opposing little Donbass, and it is also supported from outside not only by the United States. In addition to the military, we will eventually face a huge food problem due to the shutdown of enterprises and the economy as a whole, as well as the blockade on both sides (from the Russian Federation and Ukraine). Then - the mass exodus of the population due to hunger. Remember the 14th year when many left, because there was nothing to live on. And, having left with their families, many men could not return, because in order to feed the family, both parents had to work. Visitors, unlike local ones, besides the fact that you have to eat for something, at least modestly dress, you also need to pay rent. And basically newcomers take up the work that local people consider themselves unworthy. From a personal example: the family left for Rostov, the wife in Donetsk worked as a chief accountant, in Rostov she began working as a cleaner at two jobs, and her husband became a laborer on construction sites. And they understood that if, for example, the husband leaves, then the wife with two children will have to bomb, because they will not have enough earnings for one family member to have enough money to pay for housing. There are a lot of such examples. But this retreat, let's go further. In the Donbass, the military and food crisis, and at that time the media “rubbed” the Russian inhabitant that “we are not a party to the conflict”, “this is the internal affair of Ukraine,” and for the sake send humanitarian convoys that are not really tangible across the Republic that then can we talk about the whole Donbass? As Starikov said,
We must understand that in the event of such a development of events and ignoring the will of Moscow, Ukraine will oppose the Donbass, fed not only by the United States, but also by the Russian Federation. For the sake of suppressing a popular uprising, I think the Kremlin would not be limited to returning weapons from the Crimea alone, I do not rule out secret deliveries to Ukraine and other military equipment for the sake of a single goal - to kill all the people. Here the Russian and Ukrainian oligarchs would act alongside. For them, the will of the people is worse than fascism. What next? And then Moscow waits until the militia retreats to Lugansk and Donetsk, and only then puts forward an ultimatum: either accept our terms of the game, or perish in complete blockade with its people's power. Thus, Moscow solves two problems: the first - small territories are formed that the Russian Federation will be able to feed, taking into account the Crimea and the appetites of the oligarchs; the second - as many Russian assets as possible remain in the territory where sanctions are not imposed. Not for that, Russian businessmen invested billions of dollars in their Ukrainian assets, so that they would later find themselves on unrecognized territory and stop making profit. Does anyone seriously think that they can awaken at least some sense of patriotism when billions are at stake? Billions! And here are some little people, a resource, a biomass. They lied to the eyes, they say, if everyone stood up as one, then Moscow would even help openly. But such a statement is devoid of logic, because it takes much longer to self-organize the militia than to mobilize the army by such an organized structure as the state. They hung this noodle on the ears of some of our commanders in order to justify the future Minsk, while they themselves meanly did everything so that there was no truly combat-ready militia. Remember Dremov’s flash drive, and what Mozgova wrote on this occasion: “Well done, Pasha, well crashed!” But the children's soul turned to Moscow, thinking that the enemies were only in Lugansk. Pasha in vain thinks that he will somehow agree. It’s unlikely that he will forget his New Year’s greetings to the Kremlin and Plotnitsky. ”Dremov then went not only against Plotnitsky, but also against the entire“ system ”, which has enormous resources. But he is a child’s soul, he did not understand who he had contacted. As a result, more than a thousand people under his command could not save their commander. And, unfortunately, there are such children's souls among today's commanders who do not realize the full power of those whom they oppose. Therefore, I am writing this tex, maybe he will open his eyes to someone. Here are the words of the former militia Eugene Sh., The founder of Troy. He was one of the few who saw the true essence of this war,
“Why are they arresting, deporting the titular, fully adequately controlled militias and pro-Russian activists in Moscow? When in 2014, when I came to Moscow, the militiamen said that it was necessary to prepare the waste routes - they told me - nonsense, Putin is without us a khan, we are heroes ... ”Children's naivete, what can I say ...

One conclusion is that in order to get Donbass and Novorossia, the Russians didn’t have to tell on the Internet how to get up in Lugansk and Donetsk correctly, but together with Donbass rise to all regions from Rostov to Kamchatka and change the power system. To rise precisely in the Russian Federation, because, firstly, we are talking about the Russian World; secondly, it is in the Russian Federation that there are resources, owning which it is possible to influence on Kiev. It is important not so much the number of people who have risen in a particular region, but how many regions have risen. Everything had to get up so that two Russia did not work out: the popular and the oligarchic. What could lead to a war between them. Hundred-thousand rallies and 10-15 thousand militias from each region would be enough. After all, the consequences of the creation of New Russia, no matter how the union state, or as part of the Russian Federation, are sanctions against its economy, such as now against the Crimea. And in Novorossia there are many times more industries than in the Crimea. Further, sanctions would be imposed against those who try to cooperate with New Russia, which implies a complete blockade - hunger. That is, Novorossia will need to be supported for some period of time, and very seriously. The Russian Federation will have enough resources for Novorossia and Russian citizens to live comfortably if the proceeds from the sale of its natural resources are not deposited in the hands of a small group of oligarchs. No other way. You know that in 2000 there were only six dollar billionaires in the Russian Federation, by 2013 there were one hundred and ten. But from the latest data: “for 11 months of 2018, the general condition of 24 Russian billionaires, members of the top 500 richest people in the world, grew by $ 2.6 billion. That is, on average, each of them gets rich by $ 10 million per month. And in a year you will add 117 rubles to the minimum wage, 56 rubles to the scholarship and may not even take away the previously received maternity capital. If you behave yourself. ”Or remember the nonsense about“ Gazprom is a national treasure. ” If this is so, then let the salary of its 17 members of the board be not 10.6 million rubles per month (data for 2015), but 106 thousand. Is it a bad salary? And let the difference go to the needs of the people. But it was not there. That’s all the “national treasure”. there it was. That’s all the “national treasure”. there it was. That’s all the “national treasure”.

Therefore, a revolution in the Donbass is also impossible, since in the event of an attempt to carry it out, they will arrange another massacre, like Debaltseve, together with the blockade. A small region cannot dictate a condition to such a powerful oligarchic system as in the Russian Federation. But I am not calling for anything, because the people for whom to master the text of more than one page is a feat, unfortunately, can not build anything good. I write for understanding, I don’t need anything else. They divided us with you into Ukrainians and Muscovites, they set boundaries for us, and for them there are no barriers, they are one unlike us. This is a single system! Even if one of its mechanisms fails, it is immediately changed without damage to the entire system. We just have to understand what a huge force is opposing us. Therefore, we must be one. Do not be fought on some trolls. Right now, there are agitators who say, they say, why the Donbass should join Russia, let it be a separate state and build its own people's power. As I wrote above, people's power is impossible without changing the system as a whole. And the choice to crawl the Donbass separate from Russia is nothing but a “divorce” of the people for the benefit of the oligarchs, where under the guise of “nationality” there will still be a gray zone with cheap labor for the same oligarchs. In any case, the Donbass will be under the “system”, therefore it is better to be a full-fledged subject of the Russian Federation than to remain specific principalities. And if the system changes in favor of the people, then, all the more, you need to be united with Russia and within Russia! " people's power is impossible without changing the system as a whole. And the choice to crawl the Donbass separate from Russia is nothing but a “divorce” of the people for the benefit of the oligarchs, where under the guise of “nationality” there will still be a gray zone with cheap labor for the same oligarchs. In any case, the Donbass will be under the “system”, therefore it is better to be a full-fledged subject of the Russian Federation than to remain specific principalities. And if the system changes in favor of the people, then, all the more, you need to be united with Russia and within Russia! " people's power is impossible without changing the system as a whole. And the choice to crawl the Donbass separate from Russia is nothing but a “divorce” of the people for the benefit of the oligarchs, where under the guise of “nationality” there will still be a gray zone with cheap labor for the same oligarchs. In any case, the Donbass will be under the “system”, therefore it is better to be a full-fledged subject of the Russian Federation than to remain specific principalities. And if the system changes in favor of the people, then, all the more, you need to be united with Russia and within Russia! " than to remain specific principalities. And if the system changes in favor of the people, then, all the more, you need to be united with Russia and within Russia! " than to remain specific principalities. And if the system changes in favor of the people, then, all the more, you need to be united with Russia and within Russia! "

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Re: Footnotes from the Ukrainian "Crisis"; New High-Points in Cynicism Part IV

Post by blindpig » Tue Aug 20, 2019 1:17 pm

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Recently, the authorities of our Republic have actively and openly shown their pro-Ukrainian aspirations. Clearly, this is diluted with beautiful words about Russia, integration, etc. In fact, flash mobs are held with a plea for granting a special status to Donbass as part of Ukraine, and our Foreign Ministry blames Kiev, which it does not want to give this status “humanely”.

Amid all this, quite wild scandals became frequent, such as the celebration of the odious Ukrainian “Mytz” Scriabin, who glorified the actions of the ultras in Odessa on May 2, 2014. As a result, the Ukrainian Sabbath was canceled under public pressure, but someone is promoting all this Bandera in the warring republic. We are told: we need to put up and we need to put up, and "everything will be Donbass." Well, let's see where the agitators are calling us.

Fresh example. Today is the anniversary of the death of militia Nikolai Fomenko. Yesterday, we posted a message about this on Twitter. Instantly a huge number of Svidomo-anxious figures came up (even the acc. Fashik Donetsk pulled himself up) who arranged dancing on the bones in the comments. We decided not to delete them in order to show everyone what the talk of reconciliation, special status and the very possibility of coexistence within Ukraine is worth. Our opinion - no matter how many dreamed of being under the dome of the Verkhovna Rada, this is simply impossible. Look, read - this is an abyss.

However, this does not mean the correctness of Messrs. Steshin, Rogers and other interpreters of cunning planes. Their "crypto-Bandera" is the same custom-made fiction as Svidomo Ukraine itself. Yes, the degree of Russophobia is high and the enemy managed to spawn a huge number of activists and trolls serving the anti-Russian agenda. But all the same, in absolute numbers (and even more so in percentage terms) there are not so many of them, they are simply impeccably organized, ideologically charged and well-prepared. As soon as our side begins to engage in business, rather than imitation (see the last couple of years of state and economic “construction” in LNR), then opportunities will immediately appear, and people will be more actively involved, and the result will certainly come. And lovers of embroidery in the Donbass will resolve.

But this can only be achieved by deed. The time of empty promises and waving flags has long passed.

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All but abandoned in all but bare subsistence & subverted by Russia, the Color Revolution of Ukraine continues in Donbass.
Even an entire society, a nation, or all simultaneously existing societies taken together, are not owners of the earth. They are simply its possessors, its beneficiaries, and have to bequeath it in an improved state to succeeding generations

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